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Covid-19: England sees biggest fall in life expectancy since records began

And the obvious question I ask the hypnotised is: “how many covid funerals have you been to in the last 18 months?” or “how many people do you know that have got seriously ill with covid?”

The answer is always zilch, with a few fudged answers about people who died with covid but were on their last legs anyway.

For a laugh you can ask them about the cart that goes up and down their road each evening, collecting all the bodies of covid victims. Zilch. Nada.

God, the power of the media to brainwash people into believing something that is patently untrue.

But what is true is that since they started rolling out the jabs earlier this year (they are not vaccines, they are an experimental gene therapy that’s never been tried on humans before) very large numbers are getting seriously ill and/or dying.

Take it away, Nat…

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I’m identifying myself!!

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When you are able to find an isolate of “the virus” I’ll publicly say “I WAS WRONG”. But an isolate using the commonly understood meaning of that word, simply does not seem to exist.

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An estimate; no, a guesstimate:

There’s a real pathogen about, maybe a virus if they really exist (undecided question, still), maybe engineered somewhat from a natural pathogen, maybe developed spontaneously by natural processes (also still an undecided question, though David Martin’s recent-patent revelations seem highly indicative). The pathogen, whatever it is, seems to be killing some people, as flu-pathogens do every season. This one may even be killing people outside the usual cold season, perhaps because of natural mutation, perhaps because of engineering. It’s total kill may be a bit higher than usual, though probably not by much. Also still undecided. But…

Despite today’s announcement of 'mass death from “covid” in the USA, there are no palpable piles of extra dead, as is required in any genuine pandemic. People continue to die daily, as life on Earth requires. Many of these deaths are coopted onto the alleged toll of the ‘covid’, falsely.

The 'pan’demic is in fact a sinister scam, built on the back of a slightly-nastier-than-usual flu-thing, the scam entirely worked up on lying terror propaganda, for deeply criminal purposes. This by a globalist clique of conspiring, fanatically anti-democratic gangsters - the sociopathic/psychopathic/WealthPowerStatus-addicted gics - as the worldwide lockstep response of those governments that have succumbed to their subversion - not all, apparently - makes clear: Buy and subvert the World Hoax Organisation; buy and subvert also the whole of Western lamestream media and their attendant cloud of captive whores, and as many purchasable/kompromatable pols in governments as possible, and launch the con from there…

Because of the upticked Permanent Bullshit Blizzard in which we’re presently engulfed, ALL information coming to us, from ALL sources, must be treated with extreme, provisional caution, especially statistics. There are zero one hundred percent trustworthy sources just now, because of the subversion being practiced by the PBB;

ZERO!

Canny common sense, gut feel (aka carefully-curated intuition) and careful reserve at all times are essential in dealing with any alleged ‘fact’ at all. A gambler’s feel for odds is essential. Keep scanning and sussing. There is a hierarchy of trustworthiness: some commentators are straight, some wholly crooked; lots are Deceived Influencers who have been conned by the continuous and very potent, mass-hypnotising fear–porn of the PBB into the role of useful idiots. Sussing who is which is essential, as well as one can.

No-one at all, anywhere, has the complete, certain picture.

The conspirators and their nod-and-wink fellow-traveller main-chance spivs have rushed out alleged ‘vaccines’ to - allegedly - ‘treat’ the alleged covid ‘pandemic’. Clearly these goops are criminally under-tested, and seem to have unadmitted extra purposes besides healing. They appear to be in any case unnecessary, ineffectual for stated purpose, and deadly dangerous. Natural immunity, following easily-treated, mostly mild encounters with the pathogen, appears to be the safest way to go. The alleged ‘vaccines’ should be avoided at all costs, up to and including armed resistance and - if unavoidable - civil war. Their potential dangers are too great for any lesser response to be adequate.

There also appear to be waves of euthanasist-style induced deaths going on sporadically, here and there, at the hands of double-thinking useful-idiot medics; all put down to the ‘pandemic’ of course - cf today’s announcement of near half a million deaths from ‘covid’ in the US. The scam should be treated as a sort of WW3 against the profoundly criminal conspirators behind it. Unfortunately, we, the common citizens, have been pitched into this war situation against our wishes. But here we are.

Nurnberg 2 should be got going as soon as maybe, to cleanse the stables. Above all, resist the fear-porn that pretends we’re in the grip of a global Black Death. We’re not. It’s a flu, easily treated for all but an unlucky few.

This is the current guesstimate of me, Rhisiart Gwilym; 2/10/21 :fist:

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I think it causes problems and distress when people dismiss real deaths lightly.

But just to reiterate, as my analogy seems to have turned round in the wind :slightly_smiling_face: - I didn’t go as far as to say it’s not a scam. It’s not unreasonable, as my analogy was meant to show. When there are so many scam elements I don’t think it’s reasonable to object to a simple reflective term, this is normal coinage. I don’t use it because I don’t want to appear to be doubting real deaths.

People are getting sick and dying because of offcial lies, especially about there being no treatment for early onset covid. Dreadful though it is for people to die, they shouldn’t be used to protect the lies that played a key role in their deaths.

It’s inevitable there will be a mix of experiences, feelings and attitudes but I think that’s a good reason to express one’s thoughts accurately (at least when it’s on personally sensitive matters) and not cause distress accidentally (or accidentally on purpose!). It would also save time and effort on recriminations!

Cheers

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Such a lovely version of that song - thanks, Rob. I loved it. But… surely that’s Louis Armstrong?

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PP

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Correction: The Great Louis Armstrong, aka Satchmo!

PS: I don’t know for sure whether it’s Louis or Nat. I’d say Louis.

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It’s Louis for sure, but there are a few mix-ups stemming from that leading light of fake news, Youtube. I’ve given them a seven-day ban :slightly_smiling_face:

Great to see the gravelly voice being produced!

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Hi @Kieran_Telo

Do you have a link that shows the chant for those 5 remembrances? That feels like something I’d like to learn but I can’t seem to find an online version of it.

Cheers

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Well, at one level we do know that it’s not a pandemic (in the traditional sense) as pandemics are, if I understand correctly, based on cases and as we know, what constitutes a case has been changed from presenting with clinical symptoms, i.e., ill to just testing positive and that with a test not fit for purpose.

Irrespective and germ theory versus terrain aside (something I was completely unaware of until covid - was terrain theory the Betamax to germ’s VHS???), it is possible to believe that, in the main, Covid is not what the narrative tells us it is (and certainly doesn’t necessitate the global response we’ve seen) and simultaneously recognise that many people have died; of what, how and why is a whole other question of course.

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Exactly! Though when it’s eventually possible to do it with confidence it would be good to see just how many excess deaths there were - if any.

So there you have it, @Jamie. Several people on this site don’t really believe that many people died of covid at all, just as I said. Several people unwilling to accept data from any source that conflicts with their preconceived understanding of the disease.

I find it interesting that some of the same people tend to believe that 10s of thousands died from having the Covid vaccine. Ask for the excess death data or any death stats to support that, however, and…<… Crickets…>

As the late, great Terry Pratchett said

Logic and reason can only take you so far. After that you have to get out and hop

Personally I think if you start cherry picking and ignoring the actual data then you get nowhere. But that’s not a super popular view these days on either side of the covid debates…

Cheers
PP

Hi PP

It’s easy to think the only wisdom being forgotten is our own

Ahem (cricket noise)

Still looking at it, then :slightly_smiling_face:

In the first wave the deaths were covid-related, in that there was a diagnosis or symptoms, and it was too early for them to be caused by lockdown. And too early for prior exposures as well.
And, they only tested sick people at the start, we had CFR’s of 20%!.

In the later wave/s none of this was the case. Testing like mad, no symptoms necessary and lots of people had had exposure to the virus.

To recap, the graph shows these two scenarios are strongly backed by data. And the vaccine wasn’t around until the second wave. As I say, there’s no reason why the vaccine deaths data isn’t nestling there invisibly in the graph like a little virus :slightly_smiling_face:, above the dotted line, in that yellow part corresponding to ‘impossible covid’ :slightly_smiling_face:

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Lol, fair cop guv. You’re a lone voice in a field of crickets.

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Yes… Circumstances being what they are, over the last 1-2 months you’ll have to forgive me…

I know you have some interesting ideas there. But let’s not forget that we’re starting from a situation of nearly 150K death certificates with covid on them. And a death toll in a particular demographic that aligns with vulnerability to covid to the extent that life expectancy dropped last year. And although the data is volatile, it’s still in the normal range for all cause mortality during the biggest vaccine rollout we’ve ever witnessed…

But, fair is fair. You have an analysis worth giving attention to. I’m sorry I’m taking so long.

Peace

Boris Johnson on life expectancy:

I’ve given you the most important metric. Never mind life expectancy, never mind cancer outcomes - look at wages

Yep. That sounds like the Tories. These are the same people who want us to believe that they did what they could to save vulnerable people from Covid. Of course they did.

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Sorry - I wasn’t recriminating you for not getting back to me, it was just that comment about other people - just wasn’t cricket! (Old ones are the best :slight_smile: ) As I say theres a lot of dust to settle on these figures.

The covid deaths will have to come down as there are only so many excess deaths to go round. And 70K of them were in private homes (mostly not covid):

“At least 70,602 excess deaths in homes were registered between 7 March, 2020 and 17 September, 2021 across England and Wales.”

I think the life expectancy headline was tomorrow’s message to the media - if it follows straightforwardly as you say then it means nothing more than the deaths we knew about already. I just feel the official narrative with all the spin still dictates discussions too much, and causes us to be taking issue with each other.
Cheers

Sure thing

Printed version at p55

Audio

The latter alternates between Pali and English which I find a bit jarring personally but if there’s a better version I haven’t found it.

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Yes I saw this too and considered linking to it. Maybe a new occupation could be invented: professional ciggy smoker. You get £100 for every verified pack of twenty you put away, and thus reinforce both the average wage metric AND the cancer stats. Massages the unemployment stats, nice tax returns on the baccy, and slowly but fairly surely ridding the world of a useless eater too.

All boxes ticked.

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Then we can lower the age and tackle youth unemployment. Just needs the JVC1 to agree there are overall marginal potential benefits that the politicians can rule on for the greater good

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Good thinking.

“Academy Headteacher announces 20 Modern Apprentice Professional Ciggy Smoker vacancies” - is there any end to the relentless Good News…?

Academies complain schools aren’t training pupils properly. Mass bike shed building programme commences.

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