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Look at Ottawa: Is this the start of widespread popular uprising - by actually-healthy contagion?

Hm, must be murder inside these cabins then…Torturers don’t usually torture themselves at the same time, Jackie. Though I’m sure it is maddening - but where does the blame lie?

If workers have a right to protest job or life threats, and every protest inconveniences people, isn’t the first question which of the two sides in the dispute is right about the dispute?
Why aren’t people complaining that the government hasn’t wthdrawn its political mandate yet - after all, it’s illegal, rights-busting and life-threatening.

Yes, it has picked up a whole lot of problematic connotations, @JackieL, agreed. Whether that’s got worse in recent years (c.f. the PATRIOT Act) I couldn’t say but there’s a lot of basic truth in that old phrase something something last refuge of scoundrels :wink:

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Advance apologies that this post isn’t necessarily a reply to thread 19 but I can’t find a way to just chip in without replying to something.

The eugyppius SubStack, link follows, recently published a lengthy piece based on reader feedback, on the subject of what the author calls the collapse of containment.

There are two reports from Canada, this is the first. My cheapo Android won’t let me copy them both.

Many Canadians wrote in with their personal experiences of the trucker convoy. Here’s one report:

I live in a mid-sized city in Southwestern Ontario, roughly 6 hours from Ottawa, in good traffic. On Thursday, I drove up with a friend to Ottawa to see the convoy as it rolled into town. Up the 401 (the busiest highway in North America and the critical artery that ties Southwestern Ontario together), we saw crowds of people waving flags, holding signs with supportive messages for the convoy, and cheers on every overpass. Anytime that we were near a tractor-trailer as it rolled under a bridge, the crowds packed on top hooped and hollered—even though there was no way to tell if that truck was part of the convoy!

On Thursday night, Ottawa was still relatively quiet, although there were a lot of Canadian flags flying from pickups and SUVs. Regular folks who got in their cars, pickups, SUVs, and vans beat the convoy to Ottawa on Thursday night and early Friday morning.

Around 10 AM on Friday, January 28, the HONKING began. Day 1 of The HOONKENING. People in pickups, cars, SUVs, vans were starting to pile into town, and they began jamming up roads in the downtown core, most importantly Wellington St, the street the Parliament buildings sit on. As far as I can ascertain, the first big trucks arrived from the Southwestern Ontario leg a couple of hours later. They, too, piled up on Wellington St and other roads in the downtown core and held their horns down.

Seemingly, entire hotels in Downtown Ottawa were booked out by protestors. I walked the streets of downtown with a group of friends on Friday night. Despite the temperature hovering somewhere around -27℃, the city was one giant block party. Folks were screaming at the top of their lungs for “FREEEEEEEEDOM!!!” firecrackers and fireworks popped off intermittently, HOONKING was incessant. One woman was running around with her shirt off, wearing body paint that said “My Body, My Choice,” while a burly gent wielded dual Canadian flags wearing nothing but his underwear and some steel-toes.

People actually had fun in this country for the first time in two years.

I entered the lobby of the Ottawa Marriott hotel, and the best way I can describe the scene is by likening it to the Taliban takeover of the American embassy in Kabul last year. Gents were guzzling wine straight from the bottle, smokes were lit, and no one was wearing a mask except for the cowed security guard standing by the door, head down, having been defeated earlier that day by the sheer overwhelming numbers.

We moved up the floors, and every suite had a raucous party underway. I got up to the 26th floor and stepped out onto the balcony to see the whole street below packed with crowds of people streaming between the trucks, still honking, echoing up into the sky. Ottawa was occupied.

I managed to retreat to a quiet place on the outskirts of town and lay down to rest. But, the party did not stop. It stretched into the morning of Saturday, halted for an hour or so around 8 AM so people could grab some breakfast, and then revved right back up again. Everyone in the downtown core converged on Parliament like moths to a light. Parliamentary Security put barriers up at every entrance except one, creating a chokepoint everyone had to pass through. However, the numbers proved decisive again, and they soon gave up any attempts at screening the crowd.

This was also when the Western leg arrived in town, further causing massive traffic jams and effectively forcing pedestrian travel in the downtown core.

The scene was much the same on Sunday, except the focus shifted from the Hill itself to a truck parked across Wellington St equipped with a flatbed and a booming sound system. Maxime Bernier, the leader of the People’s Party of Canada (the only political party that has fought against covid restrictions since the beginning and the first organized group, in general, to do so), spoke and got huge applause from the crowd.

Many people headed home on Sunday night, and the crowd had noticeably thinned on Monday, yet Wellington St was still loaded with trucks. On Tuesday, when I left, all but the most hardcore truckers had left the city. The group still present at the Hill intend to stay there for two to four years if necessary!

Since returning to my home city, I have noticed that mask compliance has absolutely cratered, though it was never high here, to begin with. I would estimate about 2 out of every ten people still walk around with their cuck muzzle. Many businesses that have capacity limits in Ontario, such as gyms, spas, and restaurants, now openly defy them.

In Saskatchewan, the Premier announced that his province would scrap every covid-related restriction and measure within the month, including the vaccine passport. In Québec, the psychopath in charge, who has perhaps been one of the most gleefully-dictatorial politicians in the Western world throughout the dystopia, announced that he is scrapping the proposed “unvaccinated tax.”

In Australia, the USA, and Europe, I have also heard reports of similar convoys taking inspiration from Canada that will drive to their respective capitals and demand an end to measures in their countries.

Recently, a smaller convoy has blockaded a critical border crossing in Alberta, where many goods pass into and out of Canada and the United States. The police did not mobilize heavily in Ottawa or attempt much of anything. However, the RCMP stationed at the Alberta border blockade are spooked and discussing violent actions against the truckers.

Given that Trudeau fled Ottawa like Louis XVI, well in advance of the convoy’s arrival, and that no one in Ottawa attempted to storm Parliament despite outrageous corporate media incitation and blanket-designations of racism, white supremacy, and all the other –isms, it makes sense why the police stood by. But now that a critical economic node is threatened, action is taken. We’ll see what happens.

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… and here’s the second report from the same source.

Hello from the centre of the trucker protest. I live 4 km from Parliament Hill [downtown Ottawa]. I have walked the streets of the protest on two occasions for about 4 hours each. Yesterday and today I ferried several drivers to my house for showers and conversation. I put one up for the night and will continue to try to be of service.

The Mass Psychosis Media continues to call these people racists and announce without evidence that they are destructive and violent. The Prime Minister in Hiding has called them ‘racists and misogynists with unacceptable views’. His only response to any question is vaccines. I have seen nothing but smiling polite and thoughtful people who may hold some very different views on many issues than I do but are united over the one issue of the protest, which is that vaccines should be a choice. The unvaccinated ones that I have spoken with have long lists of personal anecdotes about adverse reactions and tales of absurd regulations and restrictions from across this huge country. […]

The Liberal Party government and the left of centre party, the New Democratic Party (the one I used to vote for) that keeps their minority in power, claim that this a small fringe group of right wing extremists. The right wing politicians are capitalizing on their frustration and gaining their support by giving them a voice, but most are hard-working people who don’t want anything to do with politics. The implementing of a requirement for compulsory inoculation for truck drivers crossing into Canada from the US touched off a protest supported by jabbed and unjabbed alike. They have the support everyone who has lost a job by the same restrictions on all government workers, Provincial or Federal no matter what kind of working conditions they have. My daughter-in -law works alone in the forest, tending to a fish spawning channel. A friend’s son, a financial analyst who has always worked from home. Both have lost their employment. Farmers have now joined the protest. For every one who is on the Hill, including myself , there are at least a dozen who would be there with them if they could. The coordination that has gone into making sure everyone is well taken care of is very impressive.

This morning a heavy equipment mechanic was strolling among the trucks offering repairs. The downtown hotels are ignoring their mask requirements, allowing drivers to use the public washrooms and happily booking rooms that have been empty for almost two years.

There are widely trumpeted complaints from people who are not in this small capital city, that it has been ‘paralyzed’ . A few blocks near the houses of parliament are blocked by trucks. The rest of the city is experiencing nothing worse then the usual tie-ups from road construction and snowbanks. Relations with the police have been excellent and there is always a clear lane for emergency vehicles. At least there was until the city officials ordered large snow removal vehicles to block intersections. Did I say that we have a lot of snow that needs clearing? Blame it on the truckers.

The occupied area is the where the high-rise office buildings of government agencies and banking and other corporate headquarters are located. This area has been a ghost town for two years and the logistics of getting workers up the lifts with social distancing is an impossibility. These people have been working from home and the local radio station even did a story two weeks ago on a failing shoe repair business, a shop that used to be crammed with people sitting in their socks while the cobbler fixed their footwear.

The government is doubling down. Parliament has hardly sat during the pandemic and just returned from extended lockdown Christmas break on Monday. The conservatives tossed out their moderate leader this morning and have probably chosen an interim one while I am writing this.

It is very difficult to find information on what events are scheduled on the Hill or what danger the protesters now face. Facebook pages have to be rebuilt every day because they are taken down almost immediately. A GoFundMe campaign has raised over 10 million dollars and local fundraisers at the community level have raised unknown amount more. […]

(Evidently the above was sent in prior to the GoFundMe being closed as a way of starving the campaign of funds.)

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The “state of exception” is so common these days it’s almost the norm. (See A Brief History of the State of Exception by Giorgio Agamben).

I remember the South African govt declaring States of Emergency, which empowered shoot on sight policies and which went on for years. 1980s. No prizes for guessing that these powers were not exercised in nice leafy whitey suburbs like the one I was fortunate enough to live in.

It did have a White By Night curfew for many years prior to this. It was okay for Eve to come and wash Madam’s floor and babysit her kids during the day, so that Madam could go out and earn 20x as much. (Or play Bridge, sip gin, etc)

Eve had to be on the Putco bus home by dusk or face arrest.

Living in such a blatantly unfair society teaches you to either turn away and thank your lucky stars, or to break the stupid unjust rules at every opportunity.

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Karen with regard to the lunacy down under, it was noticeable that when the NSW government started bringing in lockdowns, one of the first areas to be put into strict lockdown was the western suburbs of Sydney, where there’s a large community of immigrants from the Middle East, people who know what tyranny is and would be more likely to fight against it.

Interesting. was policing stepped up?

Karen, I’ll try to dig out something about it.

In the meantime, for anyone interested, here’s one of a number of press conferences (13 minute clip) put out by the truckers since the state of emergency was declared in Ottawa - you’ll notice that Dr Roge is in there…

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I’m a bit late into this thread, but here are my thoughts.

In normal circumstances, I’m a bit uneasy about demonstrations where a small number of people have the power to make a huge protest, essentially holding a country to ransom. For example, that happened in Venezuela, when supermarket owners and other leaders of big businesses decided to strike with the result that their actions had a massive effect on the country, essentially paralyzing it. On the other hand, the 2 million or so protesting the Iraq war in the UK had little leverage on the Blair government. The state, via the police, of course also has a massive power advantage. Indeed the police itself have it – if they decide to join a protest the government will have to act promptly to pacify them!

The current truck driver protest may seem a bit like the first example – with big trucks requiring relatively few people blocking large parts of a city “holding it to ransom”. However, there are two big factors to provide context:
(1) this protest has huge support among a substantial part of the population (~30% I guess and probably much more if the media reported critically on the Covid responses and adverse vax effects).
(2) the severity of the government’s (not just the Canadian of course) attack on the people; in particular in this case on the direct livelihoods of these truckers (and millions of others).

These last two years have seen an incredible power grab by most Western governments with unheard of restrictions to people’s freedoms. Standing around for a few afternoons with placards is not going to get very far in removing eg vaccine mandates. Personally I prefer mass disobedience, but failing that I’m happy to see these protests. The government gets a taste of its own medicine – a lockdown.

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Indeed!

Interesting eye witness report. Just a little comment about the lovely phrase ‘cuck muzzle’. I hate this word cuck. It comes from cuckold and was coined by right wingers to describe weak men. In other words, any man who cannot control his wife is a weak loser, and any weak loser is a cuck. Misogynistic and harmful imo, and anyone who uses that word tells me right away something about who they are.

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I’ve no idea of the veracity of this…

Although I can say that communications have been difficult since yesterday.

Another one here Rob.

Truckers expecting kettling and violence from the police…

Freedom Convoy Preemptive SOS Press Conference Feb.7, 2022

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Who’s that man…
with the white hair and glasses.
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It’s Dr Roger Hodgkinson!

Some fans here…@RobG perhaps

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Definitely Dr Roge with the truckers. He must be supporting them - he wouldn’t be there to offer them vaccinations… :rofl:

Dr. Roger Hodkinson | These Truckers …

Watch this for a quote at the start that might breach the guidelines…

“Myocarditis is ALWAYS serious…”
On celebs showing off their vaccine - “but they have nothing between their ears”

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Thanks @Rich. Quiet determination on show.
Where are all the racist misogynist homophobic kitten-stompers then, Mr Trudeau?

Good old Hodders!

Yes, I remember the Brees interview - IIRC he did get a bit minty with her.

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Where are all the racist misogynist homophobic kitten-stompers then, Mr Trudeau?

They’re here Ev - look, loads of the bastards :laughing: (Justin case you missed it :wink: )

Anna Brees. What a stupid woman but as ex- BBC or ITV I forget, it is hardly surprising. Here constant bleating about being censored but failing to realise that this has been a key part of the plandemic and claiming “We have done our best …” Terrible interviewer!