Hi ED
As it happens, I finally did get around to reading the study I posted that you cite. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately, I guess, for people’s safety) it looks like it had some serious methodological issues, and the conclusions are probably wrong.
I’ll post more details in the thread beneath the paper itself, but it will be interesting to see if this paper gets through review without major changes.
Its possible. I try to look at what I can, but there’s only 1 of me and lots to do…if you suspect that I’ve missed something compelling then do re-emphasise it.
Because the criterion for getting a covid vaccine wasn’t whether you had another different vaccine. Those populations are selected differently. Once you start comparing populations you need to try and make them as homogeneous as possible. The criteria for getting a covid shot was how much money big pharma could make I mean primarily age. Everyone went to get it in tranches due to age. The only real comparative population is the actual population… hence the best comparison is to baseline level in the population at large.
Not even the flu vaccine is comparable because the level of self selection for that is very high. For better or for worse there was a much more aggressive campaign of coercion for the covid vax.
Similar populations is the minimum you need for comparisons.
I’ll have a look at the link on the 8000 excess deaths and let you know what I think. Maybe not today though. (see edit below)
Incidentally, I spent some time looking at data from Norway and Finland yesterday. They are excellent petri dishes for vaccine side effects, as
1 - they had very low covid rates,
2 - extremely high vaccine rates and
3 - some of the best public health surveillance in the world. They scan through their equivalent of VAERS and investigate every case. More do-able as they have a relatively small population.
This is the standard to which we should all be reaching. So what is the result?
Very low excess mortality in general. Almost zero reported fatalities from the vaccines, very rare reports of SAEs. And millions upon millions of vaccinations jabbed into willing arms.
If the vaccines are causing deaths and SAEs in anything like the hysterical numbers that Rhis and NewSi are claiming, why is that not visible in countries that are looking hardest to find them? This question should be considered by everyone who believes the vaccines are causing harm.
I’m sorry, but I’m very far from convinced about the vax causes deaths story. I’m 99% sure that the vax causes more death than covid story is just nonsense. I’m more sympathetic to the vax causes SAE story, but even there its not as clear cut on how frequently these SAEs occur.
Cheers
Edit: so out of respect for your point that I might be missing things, I decided to take a quick look at the 8,000 deaths link before I forget. It seems that we are in some kind of raised period of excess mortality at the moment (I’ll have to look at their data sources more closely) and they simply assume that this must be the booster programme (did we even just go through a booster programme?) That’s it. The assumption seems to be based on “a paper published in the BMJ”, by which they mean the unreviewed, unpublished preprint that I’ve posted here by Doshi et al. It very much looks to me like just another attempt to jump to a conclusion without actually doing the investigation.