She’s going to wish she never wrote that ridiculous ‘Atlantic’ piece:
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Another in a similar vein: “If You Want Forgiveness, Emily, Here’s Your Program”
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Thanks San! Karen K did good work for a while in the movement to uncover what really happened in the 11/9 swindle too; the whole 11/9 Truth current. Sounds here as if her religious faith at least keeps her on the right track when all around her are careering off it.
What a shame Kunstler shills for the “effective early treatment protocols” (for a fake disease caused by a non-existent pathogen). Spoils an otherwise OK piece.
But there ARE early and effective treatments for colds/flus, A - whatever those ills really are. And the treatments do indeed help people to get well again. And - realistically - covid has been nothing more than an unusually nasty flu.
Plenty of frontline, in-clinic doctors were reporting successful recovery of patients with the doctors’ own intuitively thought out treatments which they’d tried - and proven - already in 2020. I remember listing at least five, from various no-count country clinicians; all eminently credible treatments that gave striking results.
All coins have at least two sides 
“VIRUSES DO NOT EXIST” was a Psyop - and a Nice Try!
Set your coffee aside right now! You will be laughing
Left a comment. Doesn’t seem to have appeared yet. As follows:
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Since you ‘believe’ in viruses, Igor (whatever ‘believe’ means in the application of the scientific method) maybe you’ll be able to refute comprehensively the actually evidence-heavy arguments of Tom Cowan, Andy Kaufman, Stefan Lanka, Sam and Mark Bailey, and others? All fully qualified in highly appropriate disciplines, medicine mostly. Like you I presume?
Yes? You can do that out of your own appropriate qualifications, can you? Do tell…
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He could also try David Thompson-Mllls, Dawn Lester & David Parker, Kevin Corbett, Mike Donio, but especially Steve Falconer:
He could read Mark Bailey’s little study: “A FAREWELL TO VIROLOGY (EXPERT EDITION)” on his wife Sam’s website:
While he’s there he could check out this proposal:
These people speak with rather more authority than the lightweights quoted by Igor. Its not their authority as experts, its the authority of their arguments that impresses!
We musn’t feel sad at the passing of long-held beliefs - we’ve all had to shed a few recently. I love (not) the idea that we should find a nice balance between 2 sides - Israel/Palestine springs to mind, now also Ukraine/Russia of course - but the latest ‘mistakes on both sides’ Oster shit is at no.1. this week. Its only recently become obvious to us (M & me) that the allopathic coin has always had the same image on both sides. The idea that symptoms of illness are the illness itself and can be successfully ‘treated’ needs careful revisiting (and I write that in the knowledge that we have taken effing big doses of vit C at the first sign of cold symptoms recently and seem to have benefited).
The show goes on.
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Er - as a fellow ancient grammar-nazi, A, shouldn’t that be ‘benefitted’? Brit-Eng versus US-Eng… 
But seriously… Having long been close to a veteran practitioner of acupuncture/Traditional Chinese Medicine (aka shamanic herbalism)/actual shamanic healing/homoeopathy/Western herbalism, and more, and with a large, self-enrolled list of patients, I’ve picked up from her quite a bit of understanding of the the long, low-key war that allopathy and its concepts has waged against alternative ways of seeing the whole idea of illness.
These other systems tend to see symptomatic illness as a sign of systems out of balance, in need of restoration; or, in the case of shamanic soul-healing, as cases of partial soul-loss, with the lost part needing to be found and restored.
Once you see the world-view of even a selection of these alternative systems of thought - and I’ve only mentioned just a few of them here - you realise just how parochial, and how simplistically mechanistic, the dominant Western form is; especially as right now it’s been just about completely hijacked and turned into a grotesque sham of principled hippocratic medicine by the organised-crime money-grubbers of Big Pharma.
If the rising tide of supporters of philosophical-idealism, even amongst professional physicists, has any merit (it sureashell has) then everything to do with health, and indeed with every other aspect of life, is much more heavily dependent on what goes on in mind, both group and individual, than just on the intricacies of bio-chemistry.
That’s important too, natch. But it, plus surgical intervention, aren’t the complete be-all and end-all of the healing arts. Relatively minor adjuncts might be a more accurate characterisation. (Especially when you look into psychic surgery! But that’s another topic… )
oh shitt!
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Excellentt!
Just thought I’d briefly add my own experience of this.
Up until 2018 I hadn’t seen a doctor in 30 years, except during 2005 when my left elbow got ripped open in a work accident. You’ll just love all the blood and gore there (my elbow was ripped open to the bone). I was in hospital for about 6 hours while they put my elbow back together (I should perhaps add that this was in France), and afterwards I think I saw two doctors.
That’s all in 30 years.
Then in early 2018 I had a bad chest infection. I also had a deer tic on my leg from doing gardening work. The doctor removed the deer tic and prescribed powerful antibiotics for the chest infection, and particularly against Lyme Disease, the deer tic (these are antibiotics that when taking them you have to stay out of sunlight).
I’m trying to keep this short; upshot being that the doctor told me that I had dangerously high blood pressure (no surprise with a chest infection, etc) and said I could drop dead at any moment from a stroke or heart attack. The doctor prescribed me a course of blood pressure pills. I took them for more than 18 months, with return visits to the doctor every 3 months and repeat prescriptions.
Those pills totally fucked up my body (I won’t go into details). I stopped taking them in early 2020, just as the covid stuff was kicking off.
I haven’t seen a doctor or had a prescription since then, which is getting on for 3 years ago now; this during what we were told was a dreadful pandemic. It goes without saying that I’m a true blood: always refused the jabs.
Yet I’m still alive and typing these words, and I’m in reasonable health for someone my age (a 58-year-old smoker who likes a glass of vin rouge).
Caveat: this is just my personal story. If there’s something not right with your body you should always go and see a doctor.
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True, Rob. But pick your doctor carefully…
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Rhis, when they were putting my elbow back together I wasn’t given any anesthetic.
I can’t say it was painful; more uncomfortable.
From what I’ve heard since I think the forearm is a bit like the skull - very few nerves.
Hey @Evvy_dense . If you can make head or tail of that piece, or even manage to continue to the end, you are a better person than me.
Hi PatB, I never make it to the end of anything about there being no virus - I think because it never boils down to something I can count :-). I think it’s too specialist to judge without a big learning effort. If there’s a serious discussion I try to observe it.
This was just some public jousting in the spirit of @AlanG.
The most serious engagement I’ve seen against the novirusers has come from Jeremy Hammond. I think there are responses somewhere.
Cheers
Leave my spirit out of it E!
Does Jeremy offer a clue as to where any of the isolated samples of the supposed billions of these here viruses (OK Rhis, viri) might be hiding? Or are they too busy having their functions gained for them all over the place to actually put in an appearance?
Jeremy seems happy to sustain an argument that he knows, that he says, goes round in circles. The adoption of the ‘virus challenge’ by anonymous labs could establish some truth here but this kind of truth is not much sought-after by ‘the scientists’ these days.
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Virus or no virus, I can’t believe that we accept ‘virology’ as a real science, when the way they “isolate” any particular virus is actually a complete and utter load of b*******.
I remember Peter McCulloch at the start of the plandemic, get very angry when asked if the virus had been isolated. His response was it’s been done hundreds of times. I notice these days he seems to not mention isolation. I’m not sure if that’s just my imagination or as a result of all the Coroni BS, he has started to recognise some truth in what the heretics say.
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Very few, even of the people who are now speaking on the side of truth about these objective realities, were doing it with across-the-board meticulousness from the start. Peter McC and others who tried, nevertheless spoke from their decades of conditioning indoctrination that ‘of course viruses (viri? ) are real; everybody knows that!’
It’s only as a result of the severe shaking up of people’s unexamined beliefs, brought about by this whole ghastly scam, that the entirely legitimate questions about the very existence of viruses, let alone their pathogenicity, has re-surfaced again as a live argument; after decades of suspended animation.
Won’t it be an absolutely delicious irony if one of the unintended consequences of the covid swindle turns out to be the final overthrow and dissolution of virus theory and virology! And therefore of the whole BPh ‘curing virally-caused ills with - hugely profitable - drugs’ racket! 