Right, it’s not my intention to be inflamatory, nor do I wish to upset anybody. Nevertheless, I think it’s worth querying whether or not Hitler was the ‘Hitler’ of popular imagination. Now I’m not suggesting that this here is an original thought - though obviously it would meet the most ferocious objections on most fora. Nor am I looking to posit that Hitler was a ‘good guy’. I’m considering the extent of the lying that we have encountered post Sept 11, 2001. The speed-up and spin with regard to fomenting wars and the clearly fabricated casus belli is off the scale.
This latest iteration in Ukraine is a textbook example. We know the context, but it’s wholly erased from main reporting. I don’t need to iterate the vast extent of lying around all the conflicts we have witnessed post 11/9 - suffice to say, the lies have been boundless.
Would anybody here agree that the Ukraine situation - specifically, the 7 years of hell endured by the people of Donbass - has something of an analog with Danzig and the appaling treatment of Germans there prior to German tanks rolling into Poland?
Just trying to get some thoughts on this.
Meantime, here are some of the many ‘Hitler’ variants:
You’re right to say this might “meet the most ferocious objections on most fora”. Indeed, it’s a very interesting question you raise @NewSi .
I won’t comment on Hitler, but I do know a little of World War 1 origins and it is definately not as taught in UK schools. Anyone who doubts this should read Carrol Quigley. This is from WIkidecevia
" American historian and theorist of the evolution of civilizations. He is remembered for his teaching work as a professor at Georgetown University, and for his writing about global conspiracies, in which he argued that an Anglo-American banking elite have worked together for centuries to spread certain values globally"
I have no doubt that Hitler´s negative and exaggerated image was planted in British minds by the then not so sophisticated yet effective psyops people, as was Churchill´s positive image. Remember the babies on bayonets story from WW1, which inspired the babies in incubators story of the Iraq invasion. Such tricks have been with us for a long time.
I am inclined to believe the more humane image of Hitler, Göbbels, HImmler, et. al as portrayed by David Irving. Coming from India, I place Churchill in the same league as Stalin and Hitler.
Any Indian only has to remember the Bengal famine to get Churchill’s true measure; especially considering his racist detestation of Indians. The nazi loonies in the Ukraine weren’t the first to raise monuments to vile war criminals; we have one in Whitehall.
