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The shape of things to come-no jab no job?

Pimlico Plumbers to introduce ‘no jab, no job’ work contracts | Business | The Guardian
Link: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/jan/14/pimlico-plumbers-to-introduce-no-jab-no-job-work-contracts-covid

This could make vaccines essentially mandatory without legislation if it becomes normal - if restrictions on ordinary life imposed by companies (trades, bars, concerts, even transport) on unvaccinated persons make life too much of a misery.

See how the Guardian blames ‘antivaxxers’ when the firm featured didn’t mention that.

And that ‘stops transmission’ claim - this shows the unwritten responsibility of the media to put it about (and promote the vaccine), because scientists can’t do that themselves, it not being shown to be true yet:

“Extensive medical trials have found that the vaccines approved by UK regulators are safe. However, there are concerns that the increase in hesitancy and so-called anti-vaxxers will lead to lower vaccination rates, risking further coronavirus outbreaks and potentially endangering the lives of others.”

Advance hypothetical shroud-waving…

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One very pertinent way to put it. Another would be: ‘Fraudian mediawhores turning their daily tricks, for fat pay. No actual useful level of knowledge of any subject required. Just re-babble the talking points you’ve been fed today, and bend over and brace for the daddy gics…’ Manufacturing Consent by fully-filtered line-toer whores, in action.

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Spain Creates a List of Those Who Refuse to Get COVID-19 Vaccine
Link: https://thevaccinereaction.org/2021/01/spain-creates-a-list-of-those-who-refuse-to-get-covid-19-vaccine/#_edn1

In a country that knows full well that within, or just on the cusp of, living memory, such ‘membership’ lists were used in the civil war for the purpose of annihilation, this development could be seen as threatening.
Of course the government explains it away - but other countries are pondering such measures - with much of the pondering seemingly devoted to the more delicate problem of how to sell the idea.

In Australia, “the New South Wales Premier has revealed she is considering implementing regulations that would prohibited residents who have not vaccinated from entering certain venues”

“Anti-vaxxers who refuse COVID jab could be banned from certain venues”
Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9156901/Anti-vaxxers-refuse-COVID-19-jab-banned-pubs-restaurants-workplace.html
Note the headline, which is either deliberately misleading or inane.

Oops - didn’t sell it properly, she reflected: "She said the measures would be aimed at ‘incentivising’ uptake of the vaccine, which is vital to rebooting the economy, and businesses may require patrons to prove they had received the jab. "

Similar techniques for ‘incentivizing’ banks into giving you money get you locked up.

In the increasingly indoctrinated west, we now have bioethicists, who have the job of selling breaches of rights as incentives.
Here is Arthur Caplan, a bioethicist at New York University’s School of Medicine:

“…” Even the general public could be incentivized to get vaccinated. “Oddly enough, the best way to impose a mandate is to reward people with more freedom if they follow that mandate,” Caplan says. For example, with proof of inoculation, you would be able to attend a sporting event “as a reward for doing the right thing,” he says. “And I can imagine people saying, If you want to go to my restaurant, my bowling alley, or my tattoo parlor, then I want to see a vaccine certificate, too.”"

It’s not punishment, you just have to er, earn the right not to be punished.

Here’s another bioethicist whose services will be in demand:

Carmel Shachar, executive director of the Petrie-Flom Center for Health Law Policy, Biotechnology, and Bioethics at Harvard Law School. Hospitality industry workers—those who work in restaurants, bars, and coffee shops, for example—could also see similar mandates.

“It’s in an employer’s interest to make sure that their workplace is protected and that you can’t infect your colleagues,” Shachar says. “Having a widely accessible vaccine gets a lot of employers out of having to control their clients’ behavior.” And with a vaccinated workforce, “you don’t need to worry if the people you’re serving at the restaurant have COVID-19.”

Yes you don’t need to worry about your profits - the rights of the staff seem to be missing from this profound.ethical analysis.

In the piece in question, no questions were asked - even thought the writer, as well as contacting several such people, had also dug out a comparative estimate of 70% efficacy for jabs. The ‘ethics’ had been evaluated by reverse-punishment ‘experts’, and served up as if Well That’s It, Then. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/08/how-coronavirus-covid-vaccine-mandate-would-actually-work-cvd/

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The way in which the great agenda is trialled in country X tweaked in country y, things go quiet, they try again… it’s relentless. Twitter is essentially a massive focus group.

In UK it used to be that the weekend news cycle saw the weather balloons launched, themes for the week ahead, the experts would trot off to the telly studios, and the building of consent rumbled forward. now the gestation of each idea takes just hours, parliament barely functions, guidelines become regulations in moments and the pathetic opposition whine because this should have been done Harder Quicker More More More.

Hard not to feel helplessly overwhelmed some days.

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I was just talking with my Polish neighbour. He’s had one jab already (myriad health issues there, poor guy) and is excited about the second so that he can come and go to Poland freely. Apparently when vaccinated he doesn’t need to show negative covid tests or be quarantined on arrival etc.

Not the tiniest question about whether that’s ethical. It’s just practical…

"…Apparently when vaccinated he doesn’t need to show negative covid tests or be quarantined on arrival etc.

Not the tiniest question about whether that’s ethical. It’s just practical…"

Indeed. Lots of companies will jump on the perception (carefully nurtured and not clear yet) that vaccination stops or reduces transmission, and force it on their staff to sell the idea of safety to customers. Companies that don’t pursue this unethical drive will be disadvantaged.

It’s starting already here

UK bosses set up IT systems to track Covid vaccine status of staff
Moves to assess who has had coronavirus jab could be used by human resources teams to assess employability
" However, firms that sack or sideline employees who refuse to take the vaccine may be vulnerable to claims of discrimination or unfair dismissal, according to Jeremy Coy, a solicitor specialising in employment at Russell-Cooke.

Employees could claim discrimination on grounds of religion, if they believe the substance of the vaccine was incompatible with their faith, or disability, if they had evidence the vaccine might have harmful side-effects for them, Coy said.

Workers who have been employed for less than two years cannot bring an employment tribunal claim for unfair dismissal, although they can if they face discrimination.

“But someone who had been there more than two years and are told, ‘get a vaccination or else’, it could be they have quite a strong claim for unfair dismissal,” Coy said.

One of the problems for employers is that there is little scientific evidence so far that any of the vaccines in the UK prevent transmission, which undermines the argument that someone should take the vaccine to make customers or other employees safer."
Link: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/23/uk-bosses-set-up-it-systems-to-track-covid-vaccine-status-of-staff

As the article notes people not already in the job or in it for less than 2 years could be in a sticky position. There may be grounds for discrimination regardless of employment status - but ‘hesitancy’ is not a religion or medical condition. But wait a minute though - maybe the onslaught on the beliefs and mental health of ‘irrational anti-vaxxers’ could be put to good use after all… :wink:
Wouldn’t that be irony. What’s my lawyers’ number…

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