The sun’s out, it’s a beautiful day, enjoy yourself, take a day off from the conspiracy theories -
Posted by psingh on September 26, 2021
Suspension of police officers over jab-refusal is a fact.
That midazolam, remdesivir, covid jabs and PCR tests are mired in controversy (e.g. as health hazards) is a fact.
That even scientists within the establishment have warned that the risk of covid jabs outweighs the potential benefits is a fact.
But the hackneyed ‘conspiracy theory’ phrase is the vacuous retort of one of the cretins at TLN.
TLN has done for ‘conspiracy theory’ what the Labour Right has done for ‘antisemitism’ - rendered it meaningless in content, but revealing about the character of the user: a lazy intellect-free moron.
I was never a habituee of TLN but this rot is everywhere. ‘Conspiracy theorist’ has become the smear du jour, and tends to be accompanied by threats and/or obscenity. “We decent folk grow tired of your insolence and stupidity”, as Biden more or less put it recently. Step by step the intolerance becomes entrenched, with every repetition of the controllavirus mantras.
Keep retorting “Indeed I am. We all know conspiracies happen, including you. People get prosecuted for them every day. The big job is to sort out the real ones from the crazy delusions. And you daren’t do that, dare you? Coward!”
I don’t visit the Hulk any more. Any more than I click on Fraudian pieces.
A sewer of vacuity sums up TLN pretty well when it comes to discussing covid. Time was when psingh’s one liners (often aimed at climate change posts) were laughed off as being too silly for words, but now they fit in with the consensus views.
Dan has a lot to answer for for allowing the board to degenerate to this, but having said that, what’s happened to other otherwise clued up posters? Don’t they see the rise of totalitarianism all in the name of a virus that does barely more harm than the flu? And from governments who absolutely do not care about the health of its citizens. (Not to mention “vaccines” that don’t work like they ought to, have a host of terrible side effects, and are potentially very large killers.)
Well personally, I get the distinct impression that those that have been fully signed up to the.official Covid narrative aren’t quite as confident as they once were.
I too get that impression. Small, anecdotal stuff, but more and more every day. Just a few examples.
A buliders merchant that I use, I walk in and get served without a mask (although they are “mandatory” in French stores). Half the staff have no masks and the other half usually have them on their chins!
I shake hands with my neighbours and every new arrival to my gite. In the last 12 months, no one has refused to shake hands.
A friend who sent me a picture of their shopping trolley filled with toilet rolls, would not allow his parents to go out, did their shopping and left it on the doorstep, and kept 2 meters away from everyone, now shakes hands when I see him.
A British couple arrived at a neighbouring gite yesterday. We greeted them (no masks by either group), shook hands and even spoke about the nonsense of wearing a mask in a restaurant when you leave your table to go to toilet (and Coroni suddenly appears as one stands up)!
"Don’t they see the rise of totalitarianism all in the name of a virus that does barely more harm than the flu? "
Even if they do buy into the narrative, I haven’t seen anyone post about the censorship in the media and in the medical profession, or the overwhelming bias and spin in both arenas regarding the vaccine, and treatment for covid.
Perhaps the reality is that people only object to bias or censorship when it is hostile to their own beliefs and interests.
Maybe Voltaire’s ‘I disagree with what you say but I defend to the death (or ban ) your right to say it’ did indeed die with him.
I would tend to agree with that point of view. A lot unfriendly (even agressive) attitudes towards those who refused the jab, do seem to be more and more borne of defensiveness (eg ‘maybe I should not have had it but too scared to admit it…’) now that the whole Covid scam is slowly but surely becoming more widely publicised.
I too live in France and as PatB has said, slowly but surely people are beginning to ignore the Covid scaremongering tactics. Yesterday, a French lady friend of ours visited - no mask and greeted us with the usual kisses. Another phoned us this morning to seek our reassurance that we still had not agreed to have the jab. She was delighted as she has also refused but was being pressurised by her partner to have it.
Excellent points ED. Whether one agrees that covid is serious or not, the level of censorship, media bias, outright lies etc is like nothing we’ve seen for 20 years.
Almost all discussion I’ve seen simply descends into “you either believe everything in the covid narrative or you must disbelieve everything”.
When has that ever been reasonable, about anything?
Absolutely. Pretty big oversight for a supposed media analysis site!
Perhaps a large dose of that exists for many people. Still, I’d be very curious and suspicious if, for example, the whole establishment decided to support Corbyn. So, even though I’d have welcomed it, I’d want to understand why they (and their utterly discredited institutions) were suddenly behind Corbyn. And in doing so, I might well change my mind about him!
“Perhaps a large dose of that exists for many people. Still, I’d be very curious and suspicious if, for example, the whole establishment decided to support Corbyn. So, even though I’d have welcomed it, I’d want to understand why they (and their utterly discredited institutions) were suddenly behind Corbyn. And in doing so, I might well change my mind about him!”
Yes, Blair showed that to be wise. Wish we’d been wiser then.
I was virtually mobbed by my friends in a pub garden, just after Labour under B’liar won the '97 election, and they were all celebrating, whilst I was insisting that it was an ominous event. I couldn’t put up a lot of hard arguments, but it seemed to me clear even then that he was a crook. I think my friends now mostly agree.
With hindsight I see now that that particular tranche of friends were all bourgeois professionals, rather than drawn from my working-class pleb friends; the sort of folk who STILL seem to think that ex-Labour is still worth supporting, instead of facing the fact that about half the British electorate is now effectively disenfranchised in Paedominster elections.
Merely observe the piddling antics at the current ex-Labour conference to imbibe a deep draught of their utter ineffectualness. Working people, to name just one constituency of what should be a labour movement, now have no effective parliamentory representaion in the overlord parliament that ultimately seeks to run Britain - execrably badly, as current events demonstrate spectacularly. Got petrol/diesel? Got delivery drivers for food?
On the way to the eye clinic at the local hospital today, I was briefly behind a Roads Agency truck delivering some materials. Attached to the back was a new notice: ‘Drivers wanted’. The famine has got so bad that the lugenpresse are now saying hundreds of thousands shortage. Astonishing. And now the natural gas emergency and the electricity shortage are building up for Winter, across Europe, with Britain right out on the end of the supply chain of the one credible supply source. And all of the brain-dead Eurocrats AND the English-raj class and their political wing(s) in Paedo still lost in their ridiculous Swamp-arse-kissing hostility to Russia! Literally the only place that can still help reliably to keep the lights - and the gas-fired central heating - on.
Oh brilliant government by those ‘naturally born to rule…’
I still remember the New Labour New Danger billboards and how preposterously over the top they seemed. And yet…
Someone did a mashup version with that pathetic ninny Kier Starmer as the subject. A man so utterly lacking in spine that he’s almost bound to become PM. Which is depressing.
Starmer’s only positive point in the comparison is that he lacks B’Liar’s manically-energetic criminality. If - when - he’s given the PM slot, he’ll prove not to have even the balls of B’Liar. He’s given the leadership of ex-Labour - against the will of the potentially Labour-supporting hoi polloi - because he’s such a conformable pussy. A handy cypher for the real power-wielders in USuk; sputtering permanently on three cylinders.
He also lacks Blair’s ‘charisma’ and his oratory skills, which might yet save us s from him. No idea what the alternative is, although not that that matters; different arse, same shit.
) your right to say it’ did indeed die with him.
