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The Hard Science of Reincarnation

A fascinating read. One for you @RhisiartGwilym, I think. Apparently my brother in law had nightmares when he was only 3 or 4 years old about being shot down in a fighter plane over the sea. Apparently he had a pretty detailed knowledge of the event - more than he ought to have known for sure. I don’t know what he remembers of that now…

Enjoy

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These stories have been about forever, of course, universally. In our time and place they are derided by the scientismists, but they remain durable. That’s because they represent real experiences. Amongst the minority of scientists who live up to the pure scientific method, investigation of them has gone on for a long time. But as the linked article describes, they do so under stricture from those of their colleagues who can’t bring themselves to at least suspend the materialist dogmas of current scientism and look open-mindedly at the raw evidence.This despite the fact that whenever Dean Radin gives a lecture about his very high quality experimental work on psi faculties, the bulk of his audience is usually active professional scientists; and amongst them, the ability to recall psi-mediated incidents in their own lives, ot those of their close people, is very high; higher even than amongst the general public; up in the high 90s percentile. So Dean asserts. But the subject is currently taboo amongst the guardians of orthodoxy, so it has to be kept under wraps, for career-safety purposes! :laughing:

As contemplators of the super-psi hypothesis, such as Stephen Braude, point out, the question must be asked: are these really memories in the young children who describe them, or are they reporting clairvoyant perceptions which they have pulled up spontaneously from the Akashic Records? So far, no-one seems to have found a way to discriminate.

Hypnotic regression to capture past-life memories is now a well-established practice. Seems that many of us can do it, if we give it a try. But even that doesn’t resolve the super-psi question. Either explanation - real memories of past lives, or clairvoyance - is unsatisfactory to the materialists, of course, but none of their explainaways, that I’ve seen, carry any conviction.

One of the many reasons that I take so enthusiastically to the thinking of Tom Campbell is that his ideas about the true nature of fundamental reality doesn’t just accommodate the idea of repeated re-incarnation, but actually demands it as a basic given of his Big Theory of Everything. This from a lifelong physicist, whose Big TOE also offers the very best resolution that i’ve yet seen of the ‘impossible’ - yet repeatedly replicated - results of the quantum-mechanics experiments! Pretty good range, that! :slight_smile:

I’ve never had a spontaneous near-death experience, though I’d say that the more thorough sessions of shamanic journeying which veteran practitioners perform is close to the same thing. But the NDEs seem to confer on those who get them a limpid certainty about the travelling soul’s ability - indeed certainty - to transcend bodily death, and to be reborn into a fresh person - infant-Dr-Who-style - as often as the soul still wishes to continue the process.

My innate personal shamanic-journeying aptitude has always been modest. But the testimonies of many talented shamans, plus those of the NDEers, strike me as very reassuringly convincing. And the theoretical structure which Tom has teased out from his forty-odd years of constant, methodical, experimental OOBE journeying offers great satisfaction to students of these matters seeking a logical rationale for it all.

And anyone wanting to get close encounters with spectacular paranormal events, which help to shake off our materialist indoctrination most effectively, need only follow the psi-evocation techniques pioneered in our own time by KJ Batcheldor (qv). Run an effective sitter-group, according to his experience-derived advice, and you’ll witness miraculous, non-ordinary, allegedly-impossible psi events, both PK and ESP, in short order. Pretty well “by the pound” as one of Ken’s disciple-investigators once described it.

The authentic reality of these things, and the means to explore them extensively, are all there for anyone who determines to shake off the taboos, and go and look for themselves. If you want to know something at least about who you were before you became who you are now, start with past-life hypnotic regression, then go on to sitter group work (which requires rather more dedicated, persistent practice). You won’t come up blank, however sceptical your starting position may have been. You just have to be a really good scientist, and keep your scepticism open-minded.

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Loads of good stuff to pick through there RG. I’ll chew on it and get back to you. Two quick points - very good question re memories vs access to the akashic records. I had an interesting experience in that direction that I might share here one day (in order to completely trash the remaining tatters of whatever “reputation” I still have in this board :wink: ). The other is to point you to this that you (and maybe others) might find interesting

Greyson is a veteran researcher in these areas, also from UVA. Might be interesting.

Cheers

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Although the ironic tone undermines the thrust of his argument I’ve always thought Charles Fort was on the right track with Wild Talents. In a nutshell, we have a plethora of abilities that can go untapped, or which are socialised out of us, memories of other lives possibly being one of them. That young people, not yet discouraged out of their own reality, seem so prevalent in the annals, may support this.

If you enjoy cinematic spectacle this is a fascinating exploration of the bardo:

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Muz… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BLB0YYWfjY

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Thanks G! Muz tells it with great clarity. This is the understanding which right now is slowly edging rabid materialism off its throne. High time! :slight_smile:

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Following on from the Greyson link above (which I will def be watching) here is an article on near death experiences from a couple weeks back, that I missed.

I’ve had one (at 15), “shut-down” is a measure the body uses to protect the brain…

"Agmatine treatment is neuroprotective in rodent brain injury models.
Life Sci. 1996;58(2):PL 41-6.
“Agmatine is a naturally occurring guanidino compound, found in bacteria and plants, with several proposed nervous system-related functions suggestive of beneficial effects in central nervous system injury. Here evidence is presented that agmatine can exert potent neuroprotection in both in vitro and in vivo rodent models of neurotoxic and ischemic brain injuries. The cumulative evidence lead us to suggest that agmatine, a relatively nontoxic compound, be tried for potential therapeutic use after neurotrauma and in neurodegenerative disorders.” [Abstract]

Parnia S, Fenwick P.
Near death experiences in cardiac arrest: visions of a dying brain or visions of a new science of consciousness.
Resuscitation. 2002 Jan;52(1):5-11.
“Very little is known about the dying process and in particular the state of the human mind at the end of life. Cardiac arrest is the final step in the dying process irrespective of cause, and is also the closest physiological model of the dying process. Recent studies in cardiac arrest survivors have indicated that although the majority of cardiac arrest survivors have no memory recall from the event, nevertheless approximately 10% develop memories that are consistent with typical near death experiences. These include an ability to ‘see’ and recall specific detailed descriptions of the resuscitation, as verified by resuscitation staff. Many studies in humans and animals have indicated that brain function ceases during cardiac arrest, thus raising the question of how such lucid, well-structured thought processes with reasoning and memory formation can occur at such a time. This has led to much interest as regards the potential implications for the study of consciousness and its relationship with the brain, which still remains an enigma. In this article, we will review published research examining brain physiology and function during cardiac arrest as well as its potential relationship with near death experiences during this time. Finally, we will explore the contribution that near death experiences during cardiac arrest may make to the wider understanding of human consciousness.” [Abstract]

van Lommel P, van Wees R, Meyers V, Elfferich I.
Near-death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest: a prospective study in the Netherlands.
Lancet. 2001 Dec 15;358(9298):2039-45.
“BACKGROUND: Some people report a near-death experience (NDE) after a life-threatening crisis. We aimed to establish the cause of this experience and assess factors that affected its frequency, depth, and content. METHODS: In a prospective study, we included 344 consecutive cardiac patients who were successfully resuscitated after cardiac arrest in ten Dutch hospitals. We compared demographic, medical, pharmacological, and psychological data between patients who reported NDE and patients who did not (controls) after resuscitation. In a longitudinal study of life changes after NDE, we compared the groups 2 and 8 years later. FINDINGS: 62 patients (18%) reported NDE, of whom 41 (12%) described a core experience. Occurrence of the experience was not associated with duration of cardiac arrest or unconsciousness, medication, or fear of death before cardiac arrest. Frequency of NDE was affected by how we defined NDE, the prospective nature of the research in older cardiac patients, age, surviving cardiac arrest in first myocardial infarction, more than one cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) during stay in hospital, previous NDE, and memory problems after prolonged CPR. Depth of the experience was affected by sex, surviving CPR outside hospital, and fear before cardiac arrest. Significantly more patients who had an NDE, especially a deep experience, died within 30 days of CPR (p<0.0001). The process of transformation after NDE took several years, and differed from those of patients who survived cardiac arrest without NDE. INTERPRETATION: We do not know why so few cardiac patients report NDE after CPR, although age plays a part. With a purely physiological explanation such as cerebral anoxia for the experience, most patients who have been clinically dead should report one.” [Abstract] [Full Text]

G.M. Woerlee
Cardiac Arrest and NDEs
“Restoration of some degree of blood circulation through the brains of these people, means that some degree of brain function, and hence some EEG activity was also restored. And in some of these people undergoing cardiac resuscitation, the efficiency of the cardiac massage was such that enough blood and oxygen was pumped around their bodies to restore partial, or even full consciousness, together with the appropriate EEG activity. Accordingly, statements claiming that all people are unconscious, and all people have a “flat EEG” while undergoing active cardiac resuscitation are pure speculation, and likely to be quite incorrect.” [Full Text]

On Site link: EEG Alone Cannot Diagnose Brain Death" https://www.neurotransmitter.net/neardeath.html

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Hi @GKH

wow! Amazing - I’d love to hear more about your experience. In a private message if you prefer. Sam Parnia (one of the people you’ve linked above) has done a lot of great work on this subject. I think he’s still actively investigating it. And Peter Fenwick (his co-author) is a lovely human - one of my favourite people on this subject. Well worth digging up any and all of his youtube videos on this subject.

I’m not sure what you mean by that - could you elaborate a little? I’ve heard several people try to explain away NDEs as oxygen starvation and other physiological mechanisms, but these explanations don’t come anywhere near being able to explain some of the experiences that people have had. It seems clear to me that something far more significant is happening in at least some of these experiences.

Cheers
PP

Seconding P here, G. Can you speak more of what happened? I’m always greatly interested to hear people’s NDE testimonies.

Happy to talk guys but it’s along story (I ruptured my left brachial artery at fifteen, completely, it was hanging out of arm), by “shut down” I mean that is what happens before the other “out of body” NDE stuff kicks in…I only experienced the tunnel-effect with any clarity…this being as your senses stop working and the body minimises energy use…it was enough though…the gradual loss of “being”…luckily a hospital porter and a nurse were driving up the road, saw me and applied a tourniquet (nothing else would have worked),

I hold the strange notion that group therapy should be attempted for those who fail to integrate their NDE experience…but this can only be done if the legacy of NDE is a recognised condition and that (conventional medicine being what it is), only if a distinct brain chemistry profile is identified…from work I’ve read suicide is more prevalent amongst NDE-ers (along with a host of other psychological problems such as self-harm etc.), …

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G, I hadn’t seen that sort of negative outcome of NDEs. Have you any links? Always good to have a complete picture. If there are negative effects, I need to know about them.

"Negative Effects

Although NDErs sometimes feel distress if the NDE conflicts with their previously held beliefs and attitudes, the emphasis in the popular media on the positive benefits of NDEs inhibits those who are having problems from seeking help. Sometimes people who have had NDEs may doubt their sanity, yet they are often afraid of rejection or ridicule if they discuss this fear with friends or professionals. Sometimes NDErs do receive negative reactions from professionals when they describe their experiences, which discourages them even further from seeking help in understanding the experience.18"…

"Family and friends may find it difficult to understand the NDEr’s new beliefs and behavior, as many of their new attitudes and beliefs are so different from those around them. Difficulty reconciling the new attitudes and beliefs with the expectations of family and friends can interfere with maintaining old roles and lifestyle, which no longer have the same meaning. NDErs may find it impossible to communicate to others the meaning and impact of the NDE on their lives.18

Researchers have noted that the value incongruities between NDErs and their families lead to a relatively high divorce rate among NDErs. The effects of an NDE “may include long-term depression, broken relationships, disrupted career, feelings of severe alienation, an inability to function in the world, long years of struggling with the keen sense of altered reality.”19" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6179792/

“However, up to aquarter of NDEs are negative. Experiencers of negative NDE also report an OBE and a dark transition zone, but accompanied by unpleasant feelings of fear or panic. They describe encountering bad forces or beings, and entering a hellish environment. But negative NDEs also have a positive life changing effect. Unsurprisingly, negative NDEs are more suppressed than positive NDEs.” https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/members/sigs/spirituality-spsig/a-search-for-the-truth-of-ndes-james-pandarakalam.pdf?sfvrsn=26aaa00_2

"The aftereffects of an NDE are many and complex. They impact every aspect of the experiencer’s functioning. It often takes years for individuals to incorporate these changes. One of the biggest impediments to their recovery is their fear of telling anyone about the experience. They have trouble making sense of it themselves and are reluctant to tell others about it. They are afraid people will think they are “crazy” and they will not be believed. They have had this profound experience and have no one to talk to about it.

This can easily be changed by asking anyone who has been close to death, on awakening, if they had any unusual or strange experiences while they were unconscious. If they did and want to talk about it, it is important that one listens to what is said and respond in a nonjudgmental manner. Let them talk and ask them what the experience meant to them. According to Dr. Long, 95.6 percent of experiencers believe that what happened to them was definitely real. Indeed, they will often describe it as “realer than real.”

Working with a therapist can help those who have had an NDE integrate these experiences into their day-to-day life. There are many books written by those who have had this experience that they can read. Referrals to groups for experiencers are helpful to decrease their feelings of isolation from others*. Online groups are also available." https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/understanding-grief/201803/aftereffects-the-near-death-experience

*Not on the NHS! I’ve been telling them this for years, we have the brain-chemistry (they won’t recognise a mental-health condition without it). I’d love to start a petition to get them to come up with a group therapy protocol but whoever creates it must be willing to listen because the therapy should form itself from the initial group’s dynamic. I don’t know where they’ve been doing this, the Americans are further forward (often are in certain areas).

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