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The Dimming, Full Length Geoengineering (Chemtrails) Documentary. A MUST SEE HIGHLY SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATION

Thanks for that @PatB - as you say the first 5 minutes or so spell out the steps the loonies are taking with weather weapons- the point about aluminium particles being pumped into the air creating highly volatile environments is very alarming. I always remember the reports coming back from the Falklands Naval war - loads of our ships were burning up because they were built with so much aluminium, doesn’t anyone read these days?

The later stuff on the Highwire was too climate catastrophic quoting data that seems to be pure IPCC propaganda - my feeling is, this is where the US money making principles kick in for nearly all sites - get the majority on your side ( most people still believe in AGW) to make a narrow point on a subject that has had little exposure, if you don’t no-one is going to listen to you or send in their subscriptions! ( - this is a bit like the RFK jr Israeli policy - if you don’t support them no-one will support you financially and so your other radical policies will not get off the starting block!)

cheers

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Indeed. Of course The Highwire is alternative media, but not too alternative! One only needs to listen to their (or Del Bigtree’s) position on Convid being a virus to witness this.

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A HUGE cold front has been created in the US:

Dane Wigington and Mike Adams issue URGENT WARNING for the survival of the human race

Unconnected, but I was in a Zoom Thursday evening with a gent in Alberta where the temp was -30 something not including wind chill. That’s not unusual for the time of year.

I checked the weather for Omaha before posting. Omaha seemed to me to be almost central to the epicentre of the weather map they were looking at. It was way below normal for the time of year but nowhere near the lowest recorded temperature. Sorry, I didn’t keep the readings.

Former CIA director admits plans for Geoengineering.

12.05 - 13.45 minutes in.

John Brennan on Transnational Threats to Global Security

I snipped the text below from the transcript. The transcript of his entire speech - which I’ve not read yet - is also available at the link below.

Another example is the array of technologies, often referred to collectively as geoengineering, that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change. One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI: a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun’s heat in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do. An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures, and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels. This process is also relatively inexpensive. The National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly.

As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would also raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community. On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere. On the geopolitical side, the technology’s potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions of the world at the expense of other regions could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI’s benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI and other geoengineering initiatives.

Now, I could go on and on and on and on about the things that fascinate me. But rather than talk about them, I thought I’d stop here and start the conversation with Judy, and then I can take some of your questions. I very much appreciate the invitation to come back here in the Council on Foreign Relations. And as I say to all the groups I speak to, it is a tremendous honor and privilege every day to be referred to as the director of Central Intelligence Agency. I lead an organization full of patriotic men and women who take great risks and put themselves on the front lines in order to keep their fellow Americans safe and secure, and to do what they can to keep this country’s security secure. Thank you so much. (Applause.)

Wednesday, June 29, 2016

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See this vid. https://twitter.com/frankyclarke/status/1753091471295570192

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"Once a Conspiracy, Blocking the Sun Is Being Quietly Normalized

Alexis BadenMayer, Esq., Political Director, Organic Consumers Association writes:

In 2021, Snopes said social media posts about “Bill Gates funding efforts to block the sun” were “mostly false.”

Then, in 2023, Politico reported that the White House was “cautiously” opening “the door to study blocking sun’s rays to slow global warming.”

Now, in 2024, Climate Wire is reporting that the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF) recently organized a private two-day meeting on solar geoengineering “to prepare for an expected surge of Silicon Valley funding related to last-ditch measures for slowing global warming.”

This is all very weird, especially since EDF’s official position on geoengineering is that, “Deliberate climate interventions such as albedo modification should not be undertaken for the foreseeable future as they present serious ecological, moral and geopolitical concerns.”" Organic Consumers Organisation.

"Our position on geoengineering

Based on our best understanding of the current science, EDF believes that:

  • Reducing emissions of greenhouse gases as rapidly as possible is essential to addressing the climate challenge facing humanity.
  • Deliberate climate interventions such as albedo modification should not be undertaken for the foreseeable future as they present serious ecological, moral and geopolitical concerns.
  • Engaging in transparent small-scale field research to further our understanding of the climate system and the implications of any albedo modification proposals is prudent and governance regimes should be established in parallel with the very first experiments.
  • Research on development of carbon dioxide removal techniques and their impacts should also be undertaken.


Geoengineering: Why it can’t save the day

What environmental advocates are saying

EDF has played an early role in the NGO community in promoting governance of climate engineering research. Increasing numbers of environmental NGOs have joined us in this effort, and some of them have endorsed small-scale research. For example, the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) stated its support for a U.S. government-led SRM research program, but called for guidance on governance before scaling up.

Natural Resources Defense Council recently released a statement endorsing small-scale research and World Wildlife Fund-UK is also “cautiously supporting” it. Most other large environmental NGOs have taken mixed and sometimes internally inconsistent positions on small-scale outdoor SRM research.

Friends of the Earth (FoE) International and FoE-U.S. oppose outdoor research, while FoE-UK has taken a different position. At the United Nations Convention on Biological Diversity, Greenpeace International proposed language to ban all geoengineering activities but Greenpeace-UK representatives have not taken the same approach in discussions in the UK.

The most vehement opposition to research has come from The Action Group on Erosion, Technology and Concentration (ETC), which has rallied dozens of primarily small NGOs to its “Hands Off Mother Earth” campaign and recently launched a website “to provide a space for critical perspectives, building resistance and tracking developments.” ETC has repeatedly lobbied at the CBD for a complete moratorium on outdoor geoengineering research.

At the other side of the spectrum, the Arctic Methane Emergency Group urges deployment of geoengineering technologies as soon as possible to “refreeze the Arctic,” halt snow and sea ice decline and prevent rising methane emissions from becoming a dominant climate forcing agent.": https://www.edf.org/climate/our-position-geoengineering

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Perhaps a bit more to consider on this issue are these photos I took recently. I couldn’t tell if the dark streaks were above, below, or in the middle of the white ‘clouds’.


I’d say the dark ones were below and the white ones above…it’s about the refraction too…

Hi folks - this just popped up in my email it’s 6 months old for some reason but seems to have some interesting info on UK chemtrails and the companies involved.

cheers

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I did see this video earlier. I’m still sitting on the fence but almost falling off on the side of chemtrails being real.

I just wonder if anyone here (whom I suspect are a bit more trustworthy than some anonomous ‘pilot’ - no offence intended) can verify one or two things. Perhaps using flight radar, the altitude of the planes producing chemtrails?

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When I have a clear sky, I will pay attention to height etc

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It wasn’t even clear sky.

Was in the shed smoking cos of the rain yesterday when I heard a loud low jet and here it is.

Note livery and type of plane. Unusual description, no?

Quick search on the UK aircraft register and;

Yeah…

Seems Airtanker is a private company doing leg work for the RAF. I can understand planes for Ascension Island etc, but Manchester to Brize Norton?

Well, like so many other things going on, at very best, there is a stink around this.

i) Jet2 liveried plane landing at Brize Norton? I know many airline use leased planes but …
ii) Manchester to Brize Norton???
iii) Flying at 5,000 feet? Unless you live very close to Manchester or Brize Norton, then again ???
iv) There is a strange looking cylinder under the wing of one of their planes, which does not appear on any other A330-200 images I can find. See here Air Tanker News

One just has to make ones own mind up.

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#3 I’m close enough in plane terms to Brize and Fairford that I see interesting things.

Was in the kitchen this morning. Saw a plane, wasn’t on flight radar. Clouds behaved in an unusual manner in its wake.

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Such a great photo - looks like a Magritte

Just to continue the debate, there is a video (sorry) interview with a guy called Jim Lee who has a Youtube channel on chemtrails/contrails. For what it’s worth, this guy knows more about clouds and chem vs con than anyone I have ever heard before. The nub of it, for me at least, is two things.

First, that all jet aircraft emit chemicals that are harmful.

Second, plane routing has an effect on cloud formation and there is clear evidence of political influence on routing to affect cloud formation.

It ends with the airline industry claiming that the effect of jet fuels on the atmosphere make them eligible for ‘carbon credits’.

It’s a long, long interview (around 1 hour 5 minutes), but in my opinion it’s worth persevering. Watch episode 343, from 31 minutes.

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I like that it can be downloaded: I’m off on travels for a few days and will watch instead of ghastly Travelodge telly :wink:

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