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SPI-B admits their policy of fear on COVID was at root totalitarian - UK Column calls it criminal

UK Scientists Acknowledge Using Fear to Control Public Was ‘Totalitarian’

May 18, 2021 TLB Staff GOVERNMENT, Tyranny 0

ER Editor: The original article from The Telegraph lies behind a paywall.

Members of a scientific panel on pandemic flu behavior regret “unethical” methods.

Scientists on a committee that promoted the use of fear to control people’s behavior during the Covid pandemic have admitted that their work was “unethical” and “totalitarian.”

Members of the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour (SPI-B) lamented these tactics in a new book on the role of psychology in the government’s response to Covid-19.

The SPI-B warned in March of last year that ministers needed to increase the “perceived level of personal threat” from Covid-19 because “a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently threatened personally.”

Gavin Morgan, a psychologist on the team, said,

“Clearly, the use of fear as a means of control is not ethical. The use of fear smacks of totalitarianism. It is not an ethical position for a modern government. I am by nature an optimistic person, but all this has given me a more pessimistic view of people.”

Morgan spoke with author Laura Dodsworth, who spent a year investigating government tactics for her book A State of Fear, published Monday.

Ministers have been repeatedly accused of exaggerating the threat of the pandemic to justify containment measures and coerce the public into complying with them – an allegation that will be examined by the upcoming public inquiry into the response to the pandemic.

The SPI-B is one of the subcommittees that advise the Scientific Advisory Panel for Emergencies (Sage), headed by Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific advisor.

An SPI-B scientist told Dodsworth,

“In March [2020], the government was very concerned about compliance and thought that people would not want to be locked up. There were discussions that fear was necessary to encourage compliance, and decisions were made about how to increase fear. The way we have used fear is dystopian.

“The use of fear was definitely ethically questionable. It was like a weird experiment. In the end, it backfired because people were too scared.”

Another SPI-B member said,

“You could call psychology ‘mind control.’ That’s what we do…We’re clearly trying to do it in a positive way, but it’s been used in a negative way in the past.”

Another warned that

“people are using the pandemic to seize power and push through things that wouldn’t happen otherwise…We have to be very careful about authoritarianism creeping in.”

Another said, “Without a vaccine, psychology is your main weapon…Psychology has had a very good epidemic, actually.”

In addition to the open warnings about the danger of the virus, the government was accused of feeding the public a steady diet of bad news, such as deaths and hospitalizations, without ever putting the numbers in context with news about how many people have recovered, or whether the number of daily deaths is above or below seasonal averages.

Another SPI-B member said he was “amazed at the weaponization of behavioral psychology” during the pandemic, and that “psychologists didn’t seem to notice when they stopped being altruistic and became manipulative. They have too much power and it intoxicates them.”

Steve Baker, the vice president of the conservative member group Covid Recovery, said, “If it’s true that the state has made a decision to terrify the public to get compliance, it raises extremely serious questions about the kind of society we want to become.”

“If we are really honest, do I fear that today’s government policy is playing with the roots of totalitarianism? Yes, of course it is.”

UK Column reports this as criminal behaviour given their knowledge of the likely effects on people

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They are right to be sheepish. Psychologists should know better.

Like there’s no psychology in the vaccine phenomenon!

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Sheepish? You’re too kind. They are trying to clear their conscious hoping to avoid Nuremberg 2. Any ethical person would have resigned long, long ago, but they keep taking the shekels. Anyone know what the going rate is for a lap dog on Spi-b?

And UK Column spot on again, but I posted a long message about their Iraehell Palestine coverage which fell very far short of their usual standards.

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Yeah it might be kind - they should remember things like ethical obligations and the law. Not to mention that they are supposed to be scientists and that means don’t be led by politicians. Always examine the goods.
But Nuremberg isn’t big enough to house every professional who has deliberately misled the public on Covid - it will have to be ‘Germany’ or ‘Europe’ (don’t want it to be too far for BBC staff to travel as there are so many of them).
The Mea Culpa is useful though and I’d still accept it as a kind of plea bargain - it’s down to campaigners to use this robust proof of malfeasance.

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So far so good with the Dodsworth book, am a couple of chapters in. The personal testimonies are powerful e g a very seasoned cop who confesses he bought the hysteria 100%, spent weeks ‘shielding’ (cancer diagnosis), and was terrified to venture out. How these emotions were fostered is laid out very well, beginning with the suspect videos supposedly from Wuhan.

The book is selling heavily and I hope not just to the already-persuaded because every cult survivor able to deprogramme theyselves is to be celebrated.

Good points @PatB especially re the UKC discussion on Monday re Gaza, I could not believe what I was hearing. David Scott, specifically, just spouting toxic word salad. Dismal.

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Hi @Evvy_dense here are some of the names who must be accountable for what they have done:

" Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B)

SPI-B provides advice aimed at anticipating and helping people adhere to interventions that are recommended by medical or epidemiological experts. Find out more about SPI-B

Professor Richard Amlôt Public Health England
Professor Imran Awan Birmingham City University
Professor Laura Bear London School of Economics
Professor Chris Bonnell London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
Dr Ellen Brooks-Pollock University of Bristol
Professor Val Curtis London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
Dr Laura de Molière Her Majesty’s Government
Professor John Drury University of Sussex
Dr Mark Egan Behavioural Insights Team
Professor Nicola Fear Kings College London
Dr David Halpern Behavioural Insights Team
Mr Hugo Harper Behavioural Insights Team
Professor Gerard Hastings University of Stirling
Professor Ann John Swansea University
Dr Atiya Kamal Birmingham City University
Professor Patricia Kingori University of Oxford
Dr Daniel Leightley Kings College London
Professor Dame Theresa Marteau University of Cambridge
Mr Shaun McNally Her Majesty’s Government
Professor G.J. Melendez-Torres University of Exeter
Professor Susan Michie University College London
Professor Melinda Mills University of Oxford
Dr Gavin Morgan University College London
DCC Paul Netherton Devon and Cornwall Police
Professor Melissa Parker London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine
Professor Michael Parker University of Oxford
Mr Richard Pemberton British Psychological Society
Dr Henry Potts University College London
Professor Subhash Pokhrel Brunel University
Dr Kaveri Qureshi University of Edinburgh
Professor Stephen Reicher University of St Andrews
Dr Lorna Riddle Her Majesty’s Government
Professor Brooke Rogers Kings College London
Dr James Rubin Kings College London
Ms Kathryn Scott British Psychological Society
Dr Louise Smith Kings College London
Professor Iyiola Solanke University of Leeds
Mr Hugh Stickland Office for National Statistics
Professor Clifford Stott Keele University
Dr Tushna Vandrevala Kingston University
Professor Russell Viner University College London
Dr Jo Waller Kings College London
Professor Charlotte Watts Chief Scientific Adviser, Department for International Development
Professor Robert West University College London
Professor Lucy Yardley University of Bristol and University of Southampton

4 participant has not given permission to be named." ( this looks like the number was 1 and then increased to 4, soon to be bigger?)

Note the 3 core BIT members and strangely 1 from ONS ( are they the main source of Data fixing around government policy? )

I couldn’t find any reference to the Scientific Hyperbolic Information -Transmission ( SHI-T ) “partners”, I suspect most of them work for the BiBiC or Ofcon. :grinning:

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BiBiC - genius.

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Hi @KarenEliot , this goes back to the early days of the Media Lens Message Board, I can’t honestly remember whether this was my thought or another’s but I always used it - this was one post I found:

" and PCR rightly gives two to the BiBiC nm

Posted by CJ on March 18, 2014, 2:13 am, in reply to “[Crimea Give The Finger To White House Tyrant…;O)]”

years later it’s just 100 times worse!

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SPI-B complain about their advice being censored!

8/5/2020 UK scientists condemn ‘Stalinist’ attempt to censor Covid-19 advice
Exclusive: report criticising government lockdown proposals heavily redacted before release

"One SPI-B adviser said: “It is bloody silly, and completely counterproductive.” A second committee member said: “The impression I’m getting is this government doesn’t want any criticism.”

On Friday afternoon, after the Guardian revealed frustrations over the redacted report, another member of the government’s advisory committee took to Twitter to complain of what he said was “Stalinist” censorship.

“Personally, I am more bemused than furious,” said Stephen Reicher, a professor of social psychology at the University of St Andrews. “The greatest asset we have in this crisis is the trust and adherence of the public. You want trust? You need to be open with people. This isn’t open. It is reminiscent of Stalinist Russia. Not a good look.”

Members of the committee have been discussing among themselves how best to respond to the redaction, which they believe was a heavy-handed move that jeopardises their independence."

What “independence” would that be? From their terms of reference:

“5.SPI-B will focus on questions that are complex and/or involve issues beyond the capability of individual departments to answer.”
Link: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/926179/2020.10.01_SPI-B_Terms_of_Reference.pdf

Complex questions like…

Why is this necessary?
What has been done to evaluate treatments for the dreadful, terrible disease?
Do anti-virals not treat viruses?

I don’t know why they can’t speak up. It seems they aren’t directly paid (saw this somewhere, can’t find it now).
Or maybe they did speak up, and it was redacted :expressionless:

This maybe it:

Independent Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B) - GOV.UK

“Membership

Participation includes leading specialists from the fields of academia and industry and meetings are attended by leading experts from within government.

The chair and academic participants attend in a voluntary, unpaid capacity.”

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I don’t think I stumbled across Media Lens until maybe five-ish years ago, by which time the Forum had been discontinued. The Davids did seem to lose the plot when Coroni mass hypnosis kicked off and have not visited very often since then. I should probably go take a look and see if the fog has cleared a bit.

Thanks CJ.

One who is not unpaid is Laura De Moliere, DWP - the governments lead behavioural scientist who recently has served her country in such ways as helping improve the look of austerity and the government behind it,as this 2019 essay by Danile Kahneman indicates:

Leaked document reveals how government are micromanaging public perceptions of the government’s austerity programme

We shouldn’t even know about this leaked document (co-written by de Moliere). You may remember this:

"The damning document was accidentally exposed by an unnamed person, revealing it in front of Westminster journalists and photographers. The leak highlights the fundamental disconnect between what people are experiencing and what they are being told is happening by the government… "

"The document shows part of a study that has highlighted the poor state of the public’s trust in politics, government and the party in power. It then outlines strategies that are part of an attempt to ‘build trust’ and “improve government communications.” This indicates a shameful government that thinks soundbites rather than a much needed positive change in policy direction is an adequate way of running the country. "

“The document shows the governments’ planned use of communication strategies to ‘manage’ public perceptions of the government’s behaviours and their policies. However, the Conservative’s draconian austerity programme has resulted in widespread distress, hardship, harm, and has caused citizen deaths. This document basically reveals the Conservative’s emphasis on political slogans, attempts at subliminal manipulation and gaslighting techniques, as a means of simply maintaining their power. Using language to erode people’s shared sense of reality is also a totalitarian technique of control.”

"The leaked paper explains why several ministers and Conservative MPs have appeared to be using the same crib sheet recently, claiming repeatedly that Universal Credit, for example, is “compassionate and fair”, when that description does not in any way match the evidence. It explains the repeated and unbelievably ludicrous claims that the government make about their commitment to “social justice”, “fairness”, and that they are “competent” and “tackling inequality” in the context of a policy framework underpinned by conscious cruelty.

The government have hired specialist coaches to instruct them in how to tell lies effectively, using experts in behaviourist communication techniques of manipulation. We have historically regarded states that employ surveillance and monitoring to screen, rank and change citizens’ behaviour by acting upon them without their consent as “totalitarian”. "

"It’s truly remarkable that a government who claims it favours a small state has used public funds to build a massive and private propaganda and behaviour modification empire, without any reference to the consent of the governed. The need to control citizens to such a degree indicates an overcentralisation of political decision making. "

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Hi @Evvy_dense ,

Yeah, I noticed her name. it triggered this thought-
from this Doctorate star
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to this 101 dalmatian star, Cruela De Vil
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through a few years of DWP collaboration!

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Totally agree @KarenEliot ,I had a quick look at their latest alerts - they only seem to have 3 on Covid and as you say they like most of the rest have lost the plot. I wonder if it’s just a failure to ascribe the moves of journalists to scientists given the scientific background of one of them, or is it just the massive global scale of the con?
The official unravelling of the outside mask story should require an apology to Peter Hitchins and Off-Guardian at least.
The PCR test story is one of the really big issues which has failed to dent the MSM or major alternative opinions. If, as Kerry Mullis pointed out, PCR can’t prove you have any infection then any death referring to such test is no proof of the cause of death. Nothing on this from the Daves.
Where deaths have occurred from unusual clinically observed events then we have to ask - did anyone try HCQ, Ivermectin, Zinc, Vit.D, Vit C. etc. to avoid hospitalisations? If not, why not - and we know the answer to this one! Nothing again on this in Alerts ( I haven’t checked their unsocial media accounts)
And finally SPI-B should be right up their alley - nothing!?

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Laura de Moliere should try a savvier hypothesis from which to interpret her observations:

That far from being inefficient, the Paedominster government is only inefficient and bumbling in it’s claimed purposes. In its real purposes - which I take to be delivering the outcomes that the globaliser-gics demand from their wholly-owned pocket-pols and the pols’ career-cultivating technocrat cahootsers - the government is doing tolerably well; which is perhaps why the execrable, idle booby-crook Johnson is still in place.

Remember how swiftly and unemotionally (allegedly)-Marvellous Thatcher was cancelled and dispatched to the fancy London hotel to rot quietly towards death, once her owners decided she was past her sell-by, and had nothing else to offer of use to them? Johnson will get the same push, once he’s clearly no longer useful. Don’t forget, we don’t live in a democracy, only a pretend one; and moreover a pretence where about half the citizens are currently disenfranchised, having zero realistic representation in PaedoM, nor any imminent prospect of such. Our - the plebs’ - preferences are of marginal influence, at best; so long as we stay distracted and quiet, and don’t get under the feet of the important people. We only have real influence when we get seriously unmanageable.

In such - real - circumstances, the various whores getting coaching in how to do public perception manipulation seems entirely appropriate, since the gics’ pol, technocrat and mediawhore creatures have no intention whatever to actually deliver what they proclaim to us that they will. That’s just smoke-blowing.

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