John Rappoport explaining how he went from freelance journo with no knowledge or agenda to full blown; well don’t know how to describe him. I would say one of the clearest researchers alive but some would say “What? There is no virus. Come on”. He also talks about how the mainstream covert censorship worked against him.
He ends with how his “The Matrix Revealed” got made.
Forty five minutes of video well worth the time IMHO.
Notice that John is himself very clear that the ‘no such thing as viruses’ (plural!) hypothesis is in play now, and is getting a lot more publicity (unintended effect of the covid scam; thank you, scammers! 
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Listening to him, I get the impression that - like SB herself - he’s quite persuaded that it may be true: that the very concept of a virus is one of those historic mistakes that litter the history of science.
But as he says, when he’s trying to speak to people within the various categories of belief about HIV, covid, etc., he’ll sometimes say: “Well, allowing for the sake of argument that what you believe is true…” and then point out awkward non sequiturs and unacknowledged and indeed outright hidden facts, even within his hearer’s belief strait-jacket. That looks like a good persuasion strategy to me…
Nearly as good as her previous interview with Eric Coppolino!!
Rhis; we’d say ‘historic frauds’ rather than ‘historic mistakes’. People don’t get to become incredibly rich and/or incredibly powerful by mistake. (Are you modelling ‘good persuasion strategy’ here?)
Science from way back does seem to have been a dog’s breakfast of both egregious errors which ‘everyone knew to be true’, even though, in fact they weren’t (and that, as Mark Twain pointed out, is what gets you into trouble), compounded with the endless leavening of shysters on the make, who pursued personal gain by fraudulent assertion, knowing that what they were saying was false.
I wouldn’t want to try to disentangle the two; let’s just say a ghastly blend of lazily-accepted error and deliberate blackguardry. Was Pasteur a blackguard? He seems to have known that he was bending his ‘facts’. Diary entries to suggest it. But confirmation bias, especially in defence of a great career and august fame, is a potent begetter of doublethink.
It’s an awkward question whether that state of mind is wilful, conscious dishonesty or simply a strange state similar to hypnosis: a hypnotically-induced real inability to grasp an inconvenient truth.
For many, the Vulcan or Lieutenant Data consciousness out of ‘Startrek’ - calm, unemotional, committed absolutely to logic, reason, and reliable facts - is an ideal, to be greatly revered. But that’s just pop sci-fi; not human psychological reality.
Is there an explanation on offer regarding covid - are they saying there’s no illness in the first place - what do they say is really happening, then. Especially with the early treatments that doctors say cured their patients. Why do people get ill with the flu and how does it pass on.
Is it possible that this dispute is really at the level of semantics - the wording of these sub-fundamental nitty-gritties that the med students are told to accept on day one. Maybe Sam Bailey et al are quibbling with the precise meaning, without disputing the outcome?
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Thanks for the headsup about Eric Coppolino, Alan. Very good stuff from Eric. Link below; just over an hour, very well worth the time:
Surely that’s: Medical Unification Party Preaching Everything True/Sure
Do you mean side-splitters, K…?
They seem to be willing to contemplate various hypotheses, E: Terrain versus germs; an unusual real flill (flu-like ill) which may be the result of some kind of tampering (though how exactly, if viruses don’t exist?); benign, useful and evolutionarily-essential exosomes rather than deadly-enemy viruses.
All those options remain open, even when accepting the individual bits of truth which they’re digging out.
What you’re asking has struck me as an important question too, since it first became clear - again - that there is indeed a serious query around the very existence of viruses: So then, what are respiratory diseases? What really brings them on? Why some getting ill, but not others?
Seems to me that the whole issue is a confused mystery at the moment, and of course it doesn’t do to be too dogmatic about anything. The whole field seems to be in need of a fundamental re-think. Still trying to catch on to an explanatory hypothesis which can accommodate all the unanswered questions.
Hi @Evvy_dense , I was ruminating on these same points so I checked out Thomas Cowan’s book “the contagion myth” and in chapter 2 he goes into great depth into the effects of electricty on the body here’s a taste:
“ Humankind has lived for thousands of years with our brains tuned to the
Schuman resonances of the earth, our bodies and indeed all life bathed in a
static electric field of 130 volts per meter. The electronic symphony that
gives us life is soft and delicate. Minute electrical currents that course
through leaf veins or through the glial cells in our nervous system guide the
growth and metabolism of all life-forms. Our cells communicate in
whispers in the radiofrequency range.
Traditional Chinese medicine has long recognized the electrical nature
of the human body and has developed a system to defuse the “accumulation
of electricity” that leads to disease. It’s called acupuncture. Many things
that we do instinctively also help release any unhealthy buildup of current
—the mother who strokes her infant’s head or who scratches her children’s
backs to put them to sleep, the caresses of lovers, walking barefoot on the
earth, massage, even handshakes and hugs—all now discouraged by the
frowny faces of health authorities.
Fast-forward to the Internet and cell phone era. According to
Firstenberg, the onset of cell phone service in 1996 resulted in greater levels
of mortality in major cities like Los Angeles, New York, San Diego, and
Boston.14 Over the years, wireless signals at multiple frequencies have
filled the atmosphere to a greater and greater extent, along with mysterious
outbreaks like SARS and MERS.
Today the quiet hum of life-giving current is infiltrated by a jangle
overlapping and jarring frequencies—. power lines to the fridge to the
cell phone. It started with the telegraph and progressed to worldwide
electricity, then radar, then satellites that disrupt the ionosphere, then
ubiquitous Wi-Fi. The most recent addition to this disturbing racket is fifth generation wireless -5G.
…… On September 26, 2019, 5G wireless was turned on in Wuhan, China
(and officially launched November 1) with a grid of about ten thousand 5G
base stations—more than exist in the entire United States—all concentrated
in one city.17 A spike in cases occurred on February 13—the same week
that Wuhan turned on its 5G network for monitoring traffic.18
Illness has followed 5G installation in all the major cities in America,
starting with New York in Fall 2019 in Manhattan, along with parts of
Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Queens—all subsequent coronavirus hot spots.
Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Dallas, Cleveland, and Atlanta soon followed,
with some five thousand towns and cities now covered. Citizens of the
small country of San Marino (the first country in the world to install 5G, in
September 2018) have had the longest exposure to 5G and the highest
infection rate—four times higher than Italy (which deployed 5G in June
2019), and twenty-seven times higher than Croatia, which has not deployed
5G.19 In rural areas, the illness blamed on the coronavirus is slight to
nonexistent.20
In Europe, illness is highly correlated with 5G rollout. For example,
Milan and other areas in northern Italy have the densest 5G coverage, and
northern Italy has twenty-two times as many coronavirus cases as Rome.21”
I’m still reading!
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Thanks CJ. We’re mostly oblivious to the electrical nature of our bodies. It looks like the idea is that the covid deaths were caused by the coincident 5G rollout. It’s very likely that that rollout is causing harm. But then the waves of supposed covid deaths would need explaining. I expect they explain that somehow though.
I see they also question the idea there are viruses at all, or that they cause illnesses. What about past viruses, like the flu outbreaks of the past, that couldn’t be blamed on electromagnetic fields.
I’ll need to check out the book, interested in anything notable you come across meantime . If true, the no-virus theory would in academic (indeed, scamdemic) terms be the Big One of all big ones - the catch being the near-impossiblity of getting it accepted!
Somehow that extra ‘knowledge’ (if that is what it is) would seem to make the challenge of opposing the narrative even bigger!
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Well, if you read Arthur Firstenberg’s The Invisible Rainbow, he links illness, and especially flu or flu like illness to electromagnetic radiation. Correlation, not causation, but he has so many references going from about 1850 all related to first, power lines, then radar, that in court it might be classed as an overwhelming weight of circumstantial evidence.
There is also a well documented case of radar affecting plant life which has all but disappeared from the web however, with some persistence you might find it. Katie Haggerty did a controlled trial of growing Aspen trees side by side but one set was inside a faraday cage. If you can find the images she produced, it is clear that a picture paints a thousand words.
And thanks @CJ1 for all the five gee connections. Maybe, like some of the heretics of the past, David Icke was right?
Hi @Evvy_dense , Cowan leans heavily on Arthur Firstenberg’s work on not just electrical developments by man but also the impact of solar activity particularly sunspots.
PS did you see the Message I sent you?
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Hi @PatB , this is quite fascinating, I’ve not come across Firstenberg’s work before. Here again the impact of any illness depends heavily on the “terrain” of the body - some people are far more sensitive to electromagnetic forces and this could be the reason for the patchy “contagion” of 'flu. One point AF makes is - the impact of these forces explains how it is possible for 'flu to jump almost instantaneously from one continent to another across the entire globe - something a virus just could not achieve!
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Hi CJ1 yes thanks I’ll download it and have a browse. There was an orthopedic physician called Robert Becker - I expect Firstenberg mentions him - who may have (almost) instigated this whole topic in the 80s with his research into effects of powerlines which took him down the route which led to ‘The Body Electric’. I always meant to get hold of a copy of this seminal work but never got round to it.
I don’t know about any connection with virus effects but the science/politics of the time has an eerie parallel. Some people like Becker got down to the electrical fundamentals of biology, which if ‘Science’ was really science would have become maintream - but instead it became a politically unwelcome fringe as even then science was dominated by vested interests.
Instead the tenets that were fed to the public (and the scientists) were that electromagnetic radiation (which in non-ionising) could not possibly affect people because it didn’t have the energy of ionising radiation to pull electrons off of cells. A classic straw man, as if that was the only possible mechanism of harm - Becker and his kind knew otherwise of course but didn’t succeed in overturning the ‘consenus’. Just like today really! So I think the political parallels persist today, writ large.
Edit: I think to square ‘Firstenberg’ and ‘McCullough’ I would be interested (and also for the sake of sanity) in knowing if the treatments for covid (hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, the vitamin treatments) would still be effective against ‘covid’ if covid is really a bio-effect of the extreme electromagnetic fields arising from all mobile technology epecially 5G.
But with gene therapy masquerading as vaccines still being rolled over us (and into us) at breakneck speed along with Gates knows what else, it’s in my ‘academic’ space rather than essential knowledge I must have (it seems I also must have tautologies ). If I thought there was time, it’d certainly be different!
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I notice Firstenberg makes this point about influenza:
“ The role of the virus, which infects only the respiratory tract, has baffled
some virologists because influenza is not only, or even mainly, a respiratory
disease. Why the headache, the eye pain, the muscle soreness, the prostration,
the occasional visual impairment, the reports of encephalitis, myocarditis, and
pericarditis? Why the abortions, stillbirths, and birth defects?”
Many of these symptoms are reported for COVID-19, just another thing I failed to pick up! So if he regards influenza as an electromagnetic force disease which has many of the extreme symptoms of COVID is it any wonder that flu disappeared in 2020 2021 to be replaced by COVID - @RhisiartGwilym has said all along that this is a flu like disease!
As to whether HCQ Ivermectin and vitamin would be effective if the cause changes from viral to emf - I think if it works then the cause doesn’t really matter. After all HCQ and Ivermectin were primarily created for other diseases.
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The mechanisms of actions of HCQ Ivermectin and vitamin are well studied and diverse. But they treat the disease known as ‘covid’.
If these compounds don’t work against emf effects then if emf were the true cause of ‘covid’, it would put McCullough, Zelenko, and hundreds of good honest experts who have treated covid (when other medics were watching many people get ill with it die) out on a limb.
From the practical (and immediate) point of view of covid it’s not that relevant. By the time you got 5% round the scientific world with your proof that there was no virus and it was all emf, the clampers (or the six feet of dirt) would likely be on us all. 
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But I can’t deny the topic is of great interest.
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I can see how vitamin therapy would work as a response to electomagnetically-induced ills. The energy shaking throws the biological structures and processes into disarray, then the biological treatments help with the repair and reset work, which is an integral part of physiological functioning anyway. The two things - electro-induced illness, and bio-chemical healing, are not incompatible, logically. And individual terrain-state is always decisive in how any particular body responds to the particular insult. Some will get ill through vulnerable terrains; others not so much.
More conundrum-fun can be had, though, if you also add in an extra thought: How do we view both the electrical and the biological effects, if it’s true, as vanguard theoretical thinking in the philosophy of physics is swinging round to accepting, that ALL of our reality is actually virtual; dependent for its very manifestation on information feeds sent to various individuated units of consciousness playing in this VR, in service of a great purpose…?
Though that last phrase implies teleology, of course, and is therefore still anathema to the gocos of philosophical materialism! 
The vectors - people - move about very quickly and in great numbers though. This was part of the reason why lockdowns looked like a credible way to mitigate transmission. Very badly overplayed, thanks not least to mimetic contagion. Even so, unless and until the virus paradigm is disproven some elementary courtesies, voluntarily undertaken by citizens of goodwill, are not oppressive. This may well be several steps towards #itsonlyamask bullying but wilful, or cynical, manipulation of common sense doesn’t make the common sense any less sensible.