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New Orlov interview today

thanks that was interesting, I searched a bit and could find no confirmation that Russian govt owns the Venezuelan oil industry, a Russian company, Rosenoft I think, was involved and transferred some ownership to the Russian govt but I couldn’t find clear info.

Orlov and others in the pro Russian camp, like the Saker and Pepe Escobar, all excuse the Russian military of ‘not knowing’ basically the high motivation to defend their country of the Ukranian soldiers. Which seems surprising to me because after all Ukraine is next door to Russia and everybody speaks Russian so it seems that spying and determining the fighting ability of the Ukranian military would have been rather easy…

I find also, from the pro Russian crowd, a tendency to dehumanize the opposition, by characterizing the extremists as ‘crazy nazis’ who ‘everybody agrees’ should just be killed like rabid dogs. I don’t know the extent to which the Ukranian soldiers are nazis, or even what that means in today’s world. It just strikes me as typical propagandistic dehumanization. For Orlov the Ukranian motivation for fighting back, and for the population to apparently support their military, is because they have been ‘brain washed’ by the CIA for eight years, which strikes me as condescending, maybe they are in fact just typical patriotic people who are motivated because somebody is invading their land.

The fact that some Ukranian’s became associated with the Nazis in WWII is quite understandable in the context of the Soviet Union and forced collectivization and the Gulags…Indian nationalists also associated with the Nazis as a tactic for opposing the colonialism of the the UK.

All in all a fine interview, thanks for posting!

Oh, one more thing. Orlov makes a big deal out of the ‘verbal handshake agreement’ back in the 90’s where Russia was promised NATO wouldn’t expand. That’s the stupidest thing he said in my opinion, a ‘real man’ would honor his word. What kind of world politics are done with a handshake and no written agreements? That’s just a ridiculous line of argument it seems to me, and betrays a certain misplaced ‘Russian pride’ on Orlov’s part, as if the Russian or Soviet govt has never reneged on a deal or treaty! Or as if the Russian govt goes around accepting a handshake as a guarantee of another country’s behavior!

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I commend your judge’s eagle eye, E. Hope you stick with that stance. I always regard Dmitry as giving an impressionistic overview, in which some details may be inaccurate, or just plain wrong, but with the overall thrust of his narrative seeming to be strikingly canny, and usually proving, in the event, to be broadly correct.

In his most recent mailout, he’s suggesting that the US is now in such - self-inflicted - deep shit that it’s only hope of avoiding the worst effects of its own USSR-style collapse - now actually in progress - is to sober up in its approach to Russia, and - this is what he says - to do what Russia tells it. He asserts that the US is now in such a bind that that’s its best option to moderate the worst of where it’s going and what’s happening to it.

It’s to do with the US right now falling off a vital-resources cliff, particularly access to heavy, sour crude - which Russia, Iran and Venezuela have, but USAmerica hasn’t - to blend with their own overly-light domestic supply, to have any hope of making enough diesel and ship-bunker oil to keep their transportation system running, and their supermarkets supplied. Failing that, food riots and widespread civil disturbance are only weeks away.

All this as a simple consequence of cutting itself off wilfully from Russian oil supply - which it has been buying-in steadily for some time now. No wonder the geniuses in the DC Swamp have been sending cap-in-hand delegations to Venezuela and Iran - after all the fools have done to those countries! - to beg for heavy crude!

Radical thesis! I shall watch with interest to see whether it plays out as Dmitry outlines.

BTW, did you see Friday’s UKColumn News? There’s a brief clip there of Nancy Pelosi addressing a presser, obviously befuddled by both geriatrica and booze; and, as Patrick Henningsen points out in sober dismay, that means that the three most senior people in the constitutionally-mandated power-hierarchy in US government are Dopey Joe, Clueless-Cackling Kamala, and Sloshed-and-Lost-It Nancy. Shades of Brezhnev’s last days, eh?

Remember when Soliemani was assassinated? They said ‘this is the end of USA dominance’, yet Yemen is still getting attacked, USA still occupies Syria and Iraq, Israel still bombing Syria, the dollar is strengthening…

And if one considers Ukraine, one aspect is that it seems the CIA did a “good job” preparing the Ukraine military and providing weapons and competent logistical and informational support. Remember at the beginning they said ‘Ukraine army’s ability to centrally command tactics and strategy has been destroyed’ yet it seems to me the Ukrainian Army is still functioning as a whole integrated structure, though maybe I’m completely wrong.

And as far as the USA ‘shooting itself in the foot’, well what if the USA goal is to reindustrialize and to keep Europe in line and sell them weapons and LPG? The USA COULD reindustrialize given the right push, maybe that’s what we are seeing?

We should assume without much thought that Biden/Harris/Pelosi make zero decisions, zero. Who does make decisions? No idea!

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… and animal fodder that would not meet current EU standards, degraded foodstuffs for human consumption (chlorinated tinned chicken isn’t it?), vaccines to fix the resulting malnutrition, etc etc

I think you might be on to something.

In the meantime Israel Iran bombs an empty US facility in Iraq.

I’ll offer you a bullion bet, E: That over the next - let’s say - five years, the situation in the US will be a haunting reprise of what was happening in Russia during the '90s. You’re quite right about the hopeless-marionette reality of people like Joe, Kamala and Nancy. But the same iron realities apply to their puppeteers in the US deep state as to them.

Since I’m now old enough to die at any time, I suggest we put the bullion - I prefer Brit Sovereigns - in escrow, and when things have turned out as I expect that they will, my grand-daughter can collect my winnings.

The point I’m making so theatrically here is that these geopolitical processes proceed at their own rather relaxed pace, like a plant growing, despite the inherent Hollyshite-influenced impatience of we humans, who want it all emotionally-satisfyingly tied up in a week-end, like a Hollyshite blockbuster-apocalypse film.

Sure, the Swamp creatures will continue to push-on the fag-end of their global realpolitik, such as brutalising Yemen and stealing Syria’s oil, just as you describe. Delusional fools will cling to their delusions right up to the moment when reality finally takes a knout to them and - as Private Eye’s ‘Dear Bill’ spoof once memorably put it - “thrashes them to the ground!”. :slight_smile: Such imperial villainies fall apart piecemeal, over an agonisingly-drawn-out endgame. But the endgame is what the Anglozionist empire in its current iteration is now in. (How else to interpret that loony-toon-ludicrous appeal for heavy oil from Venezuela and Iran?) The global energy equations alone guarantee the endgame. And of course the energy crisis (on-going; running before the Ukraine operation, and bound to continue after it) isn’t alone. So many other things critically essential to hitech industrial ‘civilisation’ are now getting irreversibly scarcer. As much as anything, it’s The Limits To Growth which are flooring US imperialism. The Earth itself, in the person of Mam Gaia, the great Earth creature, is ensuring that. USAmerica will uncle to these non-negotiable realities soon; China a while afterwards; Russia - being the nearest thing to an autarky on the planet - later again. But no human formation of any kind has any hope of bucking them. To quote the immortal earlier Swamp-puppet Dubbya: “This sucker is going down!”

I’ve no doubt that US gangster-capitalism aims to dismember Europe and eat its resources, and even use it - very briefly - as a new captive market, before it all collapses. It’s what imperialism does, after all, and the Az empire is a standard model. But - as is standard - empires are idiot parasites, which always kill themselves eventually, by crippling their hosts, and running out of new ones to parasitise. Patience, buddy, patience. Go with the geopolitical pace and don’t push the river! :wink: :slight_smile:

By the way, theatricality notwithstanding, I’m quite serious about that bullion investment for my grand-daughter: I’ll give you two to one odds: so, my two sovereigns to your one; escrow agent to be agreed. I’ve been taking care to give my nearest and dearest handy physical-gold, self-held bullion stashes these past few years, and another three sovs for F and her babes will be welcome. Cheers E! :grinning:

Hi folks, I too found the interview interesting.

  1. That Russia owns a slice of Venezuela oil shouldn’t surprise us given the US attempts to overthrow Maduro to get control of their oil. At the same time if Orlov is right and US will run out of diesel we should expect a massive “coup” in Venezuela that will succeed followed by Guido, US oil men to boost production, nationalisation of oil , US oil imports overnight. No-one expects the Spanish inquisition but the fascists will be in control overnight.
  2. No-one can deny the US running the Ukraine “colour revolution” in 2014 with the West walking around in orange flags in support. Nor is there any real dispute of the Crimea facts on the ground just before votes of secession independence and finally referendum and vote to rejoin Russia, which crushes all grounds for any legal dispute by the West, despite the MSM shrieks of “aggression”!
  3. The shelling and bombing of civilian infrastructure by Ukrainian forces from 2014 to date have been clearly documented by many alternative journalists independent of Russia and the West. These amount to war crimes!
  4. The flouting of the Minsk agreements by Ukraine and the West is also crystal clear.
  5. I had not appreciated that the threat to use dirty bombs is a breach of the NPT, the fact that Zelensky said he’d construct nuclear weapons is also clearly known. So without the threat of a “genocide” in LPR and DPR by Ukraine, Russia has a self defence justification for an incursion into Ukraine.
  6. The existence of thousands of Ukrainian nazis has also been clear since we started looking in 2014.
  7. It seems obvious to me that Germany in particular has cut its own nose off by its anti-Russian sanctions which will be seen by savvy Germans as economic suicide.
  8. Are we really happy about Germany starting up its war machine yet again- is this 3rd time lucky?! Particularly supporting documented Ukrainian neo if not all actual naipzis!
  9. One nazi flag in the Canadian convoy was enough to brand their leaders as nazi supporters and facing 10 years in gaol. And yet there’s really very little to see in Ukraine , I don’t think so.
  10. Any attempt in Europe a short time ago to support Nazis and their genocides would have resulted in immediate prosecution, we have to be careful how we phrase any support for or understanding of nazis, imo.
  11. We have already seen massive hikes in energy prices in the UK , my bill is tripling! If Russia stops exporting all energy to the UK and the EU the results would be apocalyptic overnight. Johnson et al need to get a grip over their mouths!

cheers

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CJ, it would be interesting to observe the differences in methods and results between the Russian operation to bring Zelensky to order (as much by freeing him of constant SS-style nazi bullying and CIA manipulation as anything)… and the US operation to remove Maduro and place Johnny Bat Guano - or some slightly-fresher clone - in charge in Venezuela.

Are we even confident that the Swampies could even mount such an invasion, and get the Venezuelan oil production working again under secure US control, in the face of popular Venezuelan resistance? With - er - maybe some outside support…?

Would the Pentagoons even allow the delusional civilian Swampies to attempt such a thing, with some at least of the sane generals understanding how easily it could all turn into an Afghanistan 2.0 fiasco?

Imagine Brezhnev and crew attempting a comparable overseas expedition during their last days in power. Any chance of success…?

Hi @RhisiartGwilym , if survival depends on access to the right sort of oil then as they say cornered rats become very dangerous. This is after all business as usual for the military whose survival also depends on oil plus it would be an uncontested no brainer for 99% of the US population spear headed by all levels of media- after all they would say- “we just want to buy it, not steal it (this time )”

cheers