Sonia presents her usual wide-ranging programme here, but the key segment starts at 1hr.7mins, in an interview with the Dr. Mikael Nordfors, one of - as he puts it - “ten thousand doctors who are denying the covid bullshit…” This is useful stuff for all who are self-treating to recover from the artificial TDS panicdemic. Mikael is clear: no house-arrests, no masks, carry on life as normal, but take special care of the oldies. Sanity, in other words. Thanks to btl commenter Tony at Off-G for this link. PS: Mikael is also emphatic that there are already well-proven prophylactics/cures for covid, mentioning HCQ+ in particular:
PPS: Alright, alright, Mikael’s views on China aiming to dominate the world may be a bit rum (or alternatively, prophetic with unusual insight - think about it…), a bit like Hull Keith on the Leaky Hulk and his obsession with Jeremy Corbyn, but that’s freedom of speech for you: yer have to take the rough with the smooth, and not get all snowflakey about the bits you can’t swallow. His rant seems generally sound to me. And do heed his final advice, that hugging is good for you, good for your immune system, and we should all do it, in frank defiance of the social-distancing bollox. 
Hi Rhis
So I just watched the first few minutes, but I already have problems with the good doctor, despite the fact that he praised Tanzania.
He made two quite obviously bullshit claims in the first few minutes
1 - the virus has not been isolated: (It has, Many times around the world)
2 - the IFR is lower than the 'flu - it’s not. Best guess right now is 3-5x more deadly
Why well meaning sceptics of the Rona response feel the need to straight up lie in such easily detectable ways is beyond me.
Does he get better or is it bullshit all the way?
Where are your sure-fire certain facts from, P? Do you really have an unbreakable thread through the cacophony of arguing voices and - always, always, always, - questionable ‘established facts’ that leads you to the One Truth? I really can’t say whether either of those numbers are established fact or not. Nor, I think, can anyone else.
The only thing that I feel able to do right now to grope for - at least some sense of - the truth is to surf widely, listen to many, often competing or mutually-contradicting voices, and try to feel out the gestalt of everything I hear. At the same time, I watch as much as I can of the developing situation on the ground, to see if I can get any direct personal witness of a claimed fact (like: do I know whether the weather has got milder and warmer in my lifetime? Answer: yes, by direct experience of it happening). Soak it all up, add a good dose of intuitive contemplation, alongside the hard-nosed rationality, and then - sorry! - waitandsee…
Always in a disciplined state of open-minded-scepticism, of course! 
PS: See the rest of the vid. It’s chiaroscuro, but worthy of its place on the gestalt.
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I hear you about keeping an open mind, but saying things like “it’s not been isolated” when there are published reports of exactly that seems completely wrong-headed. Even more so as it’s irrelevant to any discussion of useful action… Just a way to discredit oneself by making obviously false claims.
It’s an unfortunate pattern… Like blatantly refusing to do a random controlled trial of HCQ despite having the means and opportunity to do one. Why why why why?
Anyway. I’ll get off my high horse and take another look
Cheers