A long (2 hr) discussion on the perils of mass vaccination strategies during an ongoing pandemic. A pretty detailed look at the problem of how mass vaccinations with a leaky vaccine can put selection pressure on the virus to encourage more contagious variants.
It’s not proven or definite in any way, but personally I found GVB’s thesis pretty compelling. He has made some pretty interesting predictions around hospitalisation of younger people and a forthcoming “giant wave” of covid in Israel and the UK. We’ll know in the next few months if his theories are right.
There isn’t much talk about the toxicity of the vaccine by either figure, or too much talk about side effects and deaths. Personally I’m still waiting for deaths to show up somewhere in the stats, but that’s a different issue. They touch on the subject of ADE - the side effect that the vaccine might trigger a worsening of the disease - but don’t draw many conclusions. Partly because the data needed to study that is not being recorded (what a surprise). They also touch on the subject of regulatory capture and how the system is not fit for purpose.
There was no discussion about whether viruses exist, whether coronaviruses exist or whether or not a “pure sample” has been isolated… 
I’m pretty impressed with Rob Malone - he seems like someone who is doing his best to dig out the truth and get a better understanding of what’s going on. I like his scientific approach to all this. And to my mind his 4 point program for managing the current global covid phase has replaced the Indy Sage team as the best advice for all of us.
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(1) vaxx those people who are at greatest risk of serious illness only, and do this globally. Do not mass vaccinate, and do not vaccinate children. Use their jabs to vaxx vulnerable people elsewhere in the world
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(2) use Ivermectin, monoclonal treatments, Vit D, Vit C, and all other treatments widely and early for everyone who gets covid. The latest stats from Uttar Pradesh in India are very supportive of this. They have wiped out covid in a state of 230 million people
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(3) make widespread use of home testing kits (flow tests) which are quick and cheap, to detect covid. As soon as a positive test shows up, go to step (2) above
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(4) Counter some of the fear-mongering around covid with a more fact based approach. Covid is only dangerous to a proportion of the population. If you’re not part of that group then your best bet is natural immunity through infection (with the proper treatments, of course) and if you are in a vulnerable group, you should be vaxxed.
These sound like pretty good recommendations to me, and seems to make the best use of all the tools we have at our disposal. Of course he is widely ignored and “fact-checked” into the naughty corner of the internet.
Anyway. I found this interesting. Perhaps others will too.
Cheers
PP
Meeting of the COVID-19 Giants with Geert Vanden Bossche and Robert Malone MD
Tremendous privilege for me to host the first live discussion between two stalwarts in the COVID-19 pandemic. Both men have taken an ethical stand to focus on science and not be afraid to share their expertise.
The world now stands at a crossroads again. Where do we plant our next step?
Geert Vanden Bossche - Expert vaccine developer (Belgium)
Robert Malone MD - Inventor of mRNA vaccines (USA)Time to listen and be open to change.
McMillan Research
https://mcmillanresearch.com/
). The vulnerable people can still get antivirals. They weren’t part of the vaccine trials, and aren’t being studied separately now - in my view this can’t be supported. As regards vaccine deaths showing up somewhere, it won’t appear as low hanging fruit, will have to be dug out but there are shoots to be seen and dug out…but apparently there’s a shortage of fruit pickers! 
