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Hello (again) and some personal experiences regarding Covid

Hello all - some of you might remember me as a longtime, but infrequent poster over on LBN and before that, Media Lens. Suspicious of Covid from the off (a whole other thread), I became more disillusioned with LBN if that were possible, as Covid quickly revealed the authoritarian stripe that I had long expected existed there.

Anyway, having lurked here for some time and noticing that people wanted to hear personal experiences regarding Covid, here I am with a couple.

I believe I had the virus (whatever it/that is) back in March of 2020. It was very mild and lasted no more than 48 hours, although I was pretty tired afterwards for a few days. None of my immediate family caught it from me. Anyway, some months later, my daughter, who was home from university, was complaining of bad period cramps. In the middle of the night she started vomiting and I suspected appendicitis. At five in the morning, the hospital that we rushed to tried to turn us away not believing it to be anything serious. We stood our ground and a surgical consult was called in. He instantly diagnosed acute appendicitis and admitted her. Make of that shit what you will! What is scary, not unreasonably, my daughter said that had she been at Uni, she would have taken the ā€˜expertā€™sā€™ word for it and gone home. Anyway,at the eleventh hour, just as she was going down to surgery, she tested positive for Coronavirus and the operation was cancelled. (Ten days before she had had the mildest of mild sore throat and a slight headache.) They needed, they said, a Covid secure ward and a Covid secure theatre. The operation was postponed until that evening. At the eleventh hour again, the operation was cancelled as preference had to be given to a pregnant woman who had come in and who had also tested positive. As a consequence, she didnā€™t get the operation for a full twenty four hours after we had walked into the hospital. By then her appendix had deteriorated so much, it fell apart on removal, flooding her with infection. Much pain, five days of intravenous antibiotics and a week of oral ones later, she was fine, but, butā€¦You know, Covid was never, ever going to kill her, but policy towards it could have, as, I suspect, it has many others. To say we were angry would be an understatement. Oh, and whilst it is perfectly fine to fuck your assistant, we of course, werenā€™t allowed to be with her. Thank God for WhatsApp!

Many months later, we were contacted by a private company (although the letter was covered with deceiving NHS logos) as they wished to discuss my daughterā€™s experience, having been, wait for it, ā€œā€¦recently in hospital due to Covid-19.ā€ Obviously we put them right and told them where to go, but presumably she is now a Covid hospital admission stat. How many others are there? Many, I suspect and especially given the ā€˜not fit for purposeā€™ PCR test.

The second personal experience involves the jab. A work colleague, a fit sixty-odd year old (but looks a decade younger), was fully signed up to the conventional narrative and wore his mask religiously. I believe he was a little anxious about it all. He had the first jab and all appeared okay. He had the second and became lethargic to the extent that others at work passed comment. Anyway, eventually unable to breathe properly he went to hospital and was admitted with clots on the lungs. This was the last I heard. Will update as and when.

Incidentally, my partner tested positive at the same time my daughter did. I had been in constant contact with my daughter when she had had the sore throat and looked after my partner when she had it, again very mildly. I got tested; it came back negative, What does that tell us? Well, assuming I had had it back in that March, I was still immune and therefore, not surprisingly, immunity is much, much more long-lasting than maintained by vested interest or, the virus is not nearly as contagious as we are being given to believe!

Apologies for long opening post!

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Hello and welcome Jamie. Interesting 1st post.

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Welcome @Jamie - nice to see you posting. Thanks also for sharing those hair raising experiences. What a nightmareā€¦ Hope your daughter is ok now.

Cheers
PP

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Good to see your incisive input here J. Please continue. The more high-quality minds contributing, the better. Here, as you may have sussed, youā€™ll get no slagging for stepping out of the tight consensus, or indeed for any reason. Just civil discussion, as we insist. And thereā€™s no one-man arbitration. Strictly direct democracy - that elusive thingā€¦ :wink:

I doubt also whether youā€™ll encounter anyone posting irrational rants driven by Terror Derangement Syndrome. In fact, it seems entirely absent. Weird how so many succumb to it. Woeful performance at TLN for precisely that reason.

Puzzling for months over the mystery of why, I came across a highly enlightening presentation by a retired stage-hypnotist, which I linked here a few days ago. Shows with great clarity how trance-induction techniques are clearly evident in the endless bilge spewing out of the lamestream ā€˜newsā€™ media. No wonder so many over-suggestible people aboard TLN fell at the first fence. Many of them would have been up on the stage doing what that Scotsman suggested to them (especially Keith, who seems to have a dislike of Scots; that would have been a giggle!); and waking afterwards with no - voluntarily-recoverable - memory of what theyā€™d performed! Ripe! :slight_smile:

BTW, I second PPā€™s best wishes for your recovering children.

Hello Jamie. I would venture that personal testimony is so important at the moment, so I canā€™t thank you enough for what youā€™ve said.

In these completely mad times we now find ourselves living in, itā€™s often difficult to think straight.

Kudos for getting through the fog.

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Thanks for relating your personal experiences, sorry you had such a bad time, and I hope your daughter is better now. No need to apologise, it was a fascinating read.

My own pals, all with good science degrees, are all signed up to the official narrative and gleefully flaunt their jabbed status, while I curl up in the corner and, I must confess, in cowardice, say nothing. I pray nothing serious happens to them come next autumn, I love them all.

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Thanks all. Alarm bells began ringing for me from the off and especially with the advent of the term, ā€˜The New Normalā€™; a profoundly powerful phrase, so brilliant in its simplicity that Iā€™m sure it didnā€™t happen as spontaneously as we are given to believe. After all, how could we have known so quickly that a new normal would be required?

The real kicker though was the idea that we should save lives, save the NHS, act collectively for the greater good and adopt social responsibility. Ha! There are two points here;

  1. The state does not give a fuck about individual human life above and beyond its ability to be an economically productive unit. The thousands of children that die globally every day for want of clean water (something we could solve over night) evidence this as does premature death through homelessness, indebtedness, poorly provided health care systems etc., not to mention wars of aggression and far-reaching sanctions that create, in the case of Iraq, 1,000,000 excesss deaths, half off which were children; a price, lest we forget, that was worth paying according to Albright. No, the state does not care. So why now?

  2. I have never lived in a society that acts collectively (oh that I had). Rather, I have lived in one that has actively sought to destroy solidarity, social responsibility (in any meaningful sense) and collective endeavour. Unless itā€™s war of course. So why now?

The state or rather, our state, is essentially benign (others arenā€™t of course) seems to be most peopleā€™s default position and therefore, how, why would they, could they act criminally? This calls to mind Millerā€™s often quoted contention about the state losing its mind and peopleā€™s inability to accept that fact and the resultant suppression off reality. Certainly that has been my experience over the years when discussing state violence.

As for the LBN, Rhis, for some time now there has been only one (the ever-reasonable Derek) possibly two people worth reading.

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Yes J, I always found Derek sometimes painful, but always honest, restrained and savvy. I donā€™t think I ever read him slagging anyone, nor rising to other peoplesā€™ slagging of him. Apparently Iā€™m no longer signed in to post there now - though I didnā€™t remove myself. I used to go back occasionally, after being unilaterally banned from posting for a naughty-step period, just to read the remnant of PMs that were still appearing. But I guess I canā€™t get them now.

I must say, I donā€™t miss the Leaky Hulk, as TLN has now become. The rabid hysteria thrown about by the TDS victims was the last straw. I always wanted what weā€™ve set up here: calm - ish! - and determinedly-civil discussions, with NO censorship, NO taboos, absolutely, definitely NO adhoms, and NO articles of faith to which all must submit. And the proper one-person, on-vote anarcho-democracy which is a sine qua non of any forum to which I want to belong. :slight_smile:

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PS: Perhaps Terror Derangement Syndrome, as an explanatory term needs to be supplemented with something like Unwitting Trance-Induction Victim? UTIV? I suppose it would do as an acronym. :roll_eyes:

The point is, since seeing that Scottish retired stage-hypontistā€™s analysis (link in my thread of a few days back) of how he would set up his audiences with preliminary (unnoticed) induction work, and how the lamestream media, pols and technocrats are using exactly the same induction-to-trance methods, Iā€™ve been much enlightened about how the hysteria is being engendered and then maintained. Trembling terror for the lives of self and loved ones, injected into minds that are already in light trance, and who are sent deeper into entrancement with every new injection of carefully-prepared NLP programming from the autocue scripts of the mediawhores, etc. Note in particular the clip from one of his entertainments where one entranced man is throwing out violently-aggressive language and gestures towards another person there, even though he believes his trousers are glued to his chair - which indeed seems to be the only thing thatā€™s preventing him from physically attacking his target. Now who does that remind you of, amongst crews we have knownā€¦?

The contemptuous ā€˜our cattleā€™ attitude of our manipulators towards we common shlubs, as exemplified by this massive propaganda exercise, is breathtaking - and earns them some deeply-frightening close-encounters with lamp-posts and pitchforks in the near future, at least figuratively, if not literally. (Not a lot of pitchforks about these days; Iā€™ve got one, though; and a scythe; and four candlesā€¦ :slight_smile: )

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Excellent, your two points. What is so surprising is that most of the contributors to TLN would agree with the points, but donā€™t appear interested in the question ā€œWhy now?ā€. Rather, there appears to be a strong belief (on the left) that the state has been pushed into this because right thinking medical officials and scientists urged them. But since when has the state actually listened to advice? If the state/establishment wants to go to war, it will ā€“ no matter what a group of ex-diplomats say or whether there are huge protests, or whether thereā€™s a massive death toll. If they want to persecute Assange/ Corbyn under obvious false pretenses, they will ā€“ again no matter how unjust. Yet with Covid, such reasoning has completely evaporated. The fact (as came out recently) that the government deliberately scared people into complying is clear proof they were NOT unwillingly dragged into doing something.

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Just to echo the words of welcome and thanks for sharing. Your description of your daughterā€™s experience was chilling, well done for standing your ground as that is not as easy as it sounds when the ā€˜professionalsā€™ gang up.

The viral illness you describe sounds extremely similar to something I experienced in the last month. To be honest not even worth mentioning. A minor ear infection is the only lingering effect, which is my host organismā€™s giveaway sign of a standard low level flu.

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ā€œMy host organism.ā€ :grinning:

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Hi Jamie and a belated welcome aboard! Thanks for sharing your two personal experiences - two people put at risk, much more from covid policies than from covid itself. Your observation on your own infection-induced immunity Iā€™m sure is reality, studies are bearing this out. Ironically ā€˜immunityā€™ is a word you usually only hear in the media when itā€™s misused in connection with the vaccines.

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I always say to people when the subject comes up that I had an - ultra-mild, because vitamin C treated - bout of covid-flu last year, and I now have natural, balanced, long-term immunity, and Iā€™m never infectious to anyone else. Itā€™s important to hold on the this long-established reality of natural evolution, as weā€™ve known it to be true for decades, because the very idea of natural, reliable immunity, without ā€˜benefitā€™ of injections, is now under attack from the lie-makers,

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Thanks, Evvy_Dense. Yes, as Iā€™m sure you know, according to the WHO, herd immunity can now only be conferred by mass vaccination.

Rhys, not original, I know, but if I feel comfortable, when the subject of vaccination comes up, I do like to say that Iā€™m in the control group!

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Me too! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: [fillerfillerfillerfiller]

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Might be a good place to put theseā€¦

Steve Kirsch has preserved these individual comments from people about their vaccine reactions. Itā€™s about 3% out of the 10,000 total. He says many have now been deleted.
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After the Israeli Ministry of Health Posted Side Effects of the Pfizer vaccine on September 30, 2021, stating that there have been just 19 adverse
events out of 3.2 million doses for the booster (3rd shot), people were outraged and submitted comments about injuries and deaths they have seen
in family members and friends following the shots. (In Israel, Pfizer is exclusively used.)
Screenshots taken on 10-1-21 of 300 of 10,094 comments from Israelis below. Many of these have been deleted now. The first screenshot is from
the Israeli Ministry of Health, attacking misinformation and stating there are few side effects from the shots.
https://www.facebook.com/Health.gov.il/posts/4174515529326993

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Hereā€™s an ad from those nice people in Big Pharmaā€¦

Nuremburg 2.0 wonā€™t be enough for these psychos.

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Evil exploitation of children. As if Pfizer have no other interest in the matter. :angry:

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