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Do we need to talk about mass shootings?

Renegades vs NWO
#1

Tip of the hat to the (very good) Lionel Shriver book.

The far right extremist SubStacks and other sources of online harm that evil types like me frequent are quite suspicious about the whole madman with a gun thing.

Latest example, last I heard, was the one referenced here, and you’ll see quite a bit of speculation about whether police deliberately let the thing unfold as if to maximise the death toll.

The line of reasoning seems to be that if The Government Is Forced To Act this will lead to disarming of citizens and makes the job of terrorising Americans into submission much easier. To my surprise I’m a lot more sympathetic to that than I used to be.

Equally though it seems pure mad that an 18 year old can buy weapons of such lethality with so few checks.

There’s also this notion of Manchurian Candidates dotted around waiting to be activated. Credible? There were seemingly two other motorcades and two other patsies lined up in 1963 when it was decided to assassinate JFK, I’ve read. Lee Oswald simply happened to be the one that panned out.

#2

And so you should be. When I’ve got more time I’ll add my two penny’s worth.

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#3

Looking forward to it. The most egregious example I’ve been reading about lately is the Las Vegas 2017 incident in which this rando bloke smuggled umpteen guns and ammo into a hotel room and then picked off several hundred people (60+ fatalities) at a distance of 400m +

O.k.a.y…

#4

What doesn’t make absolutely any sense to me is that someone who was bullied goes off and ends random lives instead of the bullies that supposedly triggered it…

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#5

In a divisive dog eat dog society like the US can anyone truthfully claim to have never suffered bullying?

Apart from ridiculous people like Taylor Lorenz who confuse mild pushback with harassment/bullying.

Some good points here, the one that resonates with me the most is this one

Few Europeans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders own guns, and it is believed by many that the imposition of much harsher lockdowns on the citizens of these nations, compared to the US, was enabled by this fact.

#6

Lots of good stuff here

#7

The Cospithirry Credibility Count is important here. Amongst the various (real) conspiracies which do indeed happen all the time, there are many others - alleged - which seem less likely, or even highly unlikely. I don’t know of any reliable way to assign a CCC to any particular alleged conspiracy, except the smell test.

To me, Sandy Hook was clearly some kind of (real) conspiracy, where we mere onlookers from far away are never likely to know the whole, unbent truth. That video of the behaviour of ‘parent Robbie Parker’ just before going on in front the world’s press and TV cameras was a dead giveaway: he was a crisis-actor, in the wings, waiting for his cue, and acting the way actors do when they’re in that pre-performance limbo. As an old, time-served actor myself, I recognise the signs without a doubt.

Then there’s 11/9, which, simply on the huge accumulated stack of hard evidence, I’d stake my great-grand-children’s lives was indeed a false-flag conspiracy.

About the Illuminati supposedly plotting to master the whole Earth and all in it, though, I’m much more doubtful. Always true that there are over-stuffed jerks who fantasise about such things; but superior humans who can actually bring them about? Er - don’t think so…

All alleged conspiracies come with some level of credibility. It’s a spectrum. And all we can do is apply common sense, plus look critically at the actual evidence. On that understanding, I’d guesstimate that the various mass-shootings in the US are - frequently - contrived events, where the real pattern will never be at once and easily clear, but well muddied up, because there’s an underlying purpose being served: to take away from USAmericans “the right to keep and bear arms.”

And then there’s this interesting comment by Steve Turley, who asserts that the US is not a whole lot more prone to mass shootings than is the rest of the world. Slightly less so, in fact, according to his figures:

So maybe we just hear more about the ones that happen in the US, because the gics running the Anglozionist empire regard the disarming of the USAmerican citizenry as a serious priority; so of course their compliant mediawhores in the Az propaganda system - aka ‘the news’ - play them up for all they’re worth, whilst simply passing over others elsewhere in near universal silence…?

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#8

PS: Only the Steve Turley video in the link given above is the relevant bit. Seraphim Hanisch’s following spiel is optional. Not particularly germane to Steve’s main point, which is that mass killings are not peculiar to the US, nor even unusually more frequent there than anywhere else. He cites just one study. I don’t know whether this really proves the point, but it’s worth considering.

#9

Just throwing this in to the mix

Given how widely medicated the US population is, this could definitely be a factor in my opinion.

Chris Martensen had also looked into this. I’ve not watched his video yet (he needs better editing) but it’s on the list

Cheers

#10

Quite suspicious? Quite right in my opinion.

I (rightly or wrongly) treat everyone of these as either complete BS or a psy op. I got bored of following the details of many of them but I reached this point by looking carefully at just a few. If they are complete BS, they are a false flag with an agenda, usually gun control. These are a few on my personal path to being an out and out cynic.

Anyone reading this board (even the guys in Gloucester) will know that 9/11 was a false flag. Nuff said.

One I looked at carefully, was the Sandy Hook school shooting. I remember Abby Martin (for whom I used to have much admiration) on RT saying in a very sarcastic tone, words to the effect of conspiracists say no one died. Well, if anyone follows the evidence, even without the stuff that has been Googled away forever, it is clear, that the Sandy Hook school had been closed for sometime, they were all crisis actors, that the ‘dead’ children were all alive and well several years later, and many of the ‘bereaved’ families moved upmarket in the housing stakes. But of course the impact at the time was conditioning us to accept deranged gunmen.

I also took a look at the Boston Marathon ‘bombing’. I had a friend who ran it that year and he was really shaken. However, again looking at the breadcrumbs along the way, it is clear to any independent thinker, that this was a staged event. There is an excellent 1 hour documentary on how it was all done called “The Boston Unbombing”. I guess this will have been Googled away forever, but you may still get it here.

Going a bit further back there was the Oklahoma city bombing. Follow the evidence and you’ll see more than the NWO want you to. For instance the first police officer on the scene who said a lot of things contrary to the promoted narrative, later committed ‘suicide’ by shooting himself in the back of the head!!

Another I remember was the alleged murder in broad daylight of a UK serviceman Lee Rigby. Just so happens that the names of the two ‘muslim’ attackers were Michael Adebowale and Michael Adebolajo. Fortunate coincidence at the time of another pandemic scare. There was a blogger who analysed the events in great detail. His analysis included video evidence of people walking past the scene of the ‘hacking to death’ without batting an eyelid! He was hounded by local police, then social services, then his daughter got caught up in it and ended with his entire blog site been taken off line by court order.

My final conversion to disbelieving cynic or astute critical thinker (you choose), was when two RT reporters were seen standing around and joking, at the scene of the Westminster bridge ‘attack’.

In my opinion, the NWO would have no hesitation in using mind control (aka MK Ultra), patsies to take responsibility usually ending up dead before any court case, and killing innocent people in service of their agenda. The lamestream media are complicit and therefore just as guilty.

The result is every time there is another ‘deranged gunman’ killing his school friends or muslims in in a mosque and livestreaming it, my response is basically, “Oh f***. Here we go again” without even considering the possibility that it might be as reported.

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#11

There’s no doubt that many of these incidents are radically NOT as they’re presented; with the fake description trotted out regularly thereafter as if it were established, uncontroversial history, when clearly it’s no such thing.

Sandy Hook isn’t. Neither is the Boston ‘bombing’. And of course no-one with two brain cells (and a bit of emotional self-discipline) who looks even briefly at the - by now - mountain of evidence about 11/9 can come to any other rational conclusion than ‘false-flag’; with a bit more digging leading unmistakably to the further conclusion that, though largely overseen by USAmerican ‘elite’ plotters, it was actually a zionistani gift to the world, in its origination.

For me, the Sandy Hook crisis-actor ‘Robbie Parker’ caught on video laughing and chatting with his buddies, just before getting his cue to go on-stage in front of the world’s media cameras as a ‘bereaved parent’, was pretty conclusive too: been there, done that, many times. Takes one to know one…

Once you have a handful of these events that are obviously con-jobs, the whole lot of them become deeply suspect. And yes, it’s about control; not just guns, though that too, but more generally. As I was reading somewhere a couple of days ago, the suspicion has to be that the Mr. Globalist gics understand the existential world crisis into which we’re all racing as well as anyone else who’s awake and paying attention, and their intention is to lay on we hoi-polloi as much draconian control as they can manage, in order to impose on us the old principle: “May you die today, that I can die tomorrow.” I doubt that it’s anything more complicated than that, at bottom: dog eat dog, in an absolute crisis.

Made keener in NAmerica, of course, by the fact that the savviest of the US imperial gics understand sharply that their stronghold state is on the collapse-of-USSR skids right now, so they’re in even deeper doo-doo than their rival gics elsewhere in the world, and it’s making them desperate.

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#12

The thrust of what you’re saying I’d wholly endorse.

I read the paper by John Lott, it is utter bullshit. He comes up with an appendix ranking the US tenth on a list of countries with the most shootings, for example, but most of the rest were countries with specific problems of civil disorder: Colombia, Afghanistan, Iraq. Not countries that are nominally at peace let’s put it that way.

The guy consciously chose this photo for his website and I know it’s bad form to criticize someone for their appearance… but wtaf…

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SSRIs and “going postal” have a strong association. But so does cannabis and irrational violence. A percentage of people can become psychotic, for various reasons, and living in an utterly anomic shithole probably doesn’t help all that much. See too MKUltra and the absolutely vile sadism that is supposed to be ‘entertainment’ these days.

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#13

:rofl:

I suppose it depends on what other photos the chap has! Could be they’re all even more lex luthorish…

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#14

I hadn’t thought of that lol

#15

As a PS to the above I’m gonna give this a try:

His stuff on the differences between Having and Being is very worth a read (To Have Or To Be, Sane Society etc). Strong Buddhist influence.

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