The disturbances are spreading. I see a police station has ignited. Always more filming than actually taking part.
Am I the only one confused about the reaction to Leeds being vastly different to elsewhere? Also, why has Starmer started a unit to watch people protesting about knives instead of dealing with said knives?
So far on social media I’ve seen loyalists and republicans marching together in Belfast, several people injured by hammer attacks, large groups with knives and swords and people fleeing in fear for their lives.
Don’t think it’s quite time yet, but it’s coming.
Re your first post LY…tangentially, I’ve also heard a typically BBC train of thought starting from What can be done about ‘misinformation’ on Social Media (though it was simply a false claim that Rudakubana was an asylum seeker), and leading to The Online Harms act needs to be strengthened so that social media platforms can be pressured even more to stop allowing (what the government calls) ‘misinformation’. Widening the net…
From MoA open comments;
sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 15:10 utc | 263
*** Anti immigration protests in Belfast, someone stabbed three girls to death…never seen a Union Jack fly along side the Tri Colour, today I did…it really is a strange time indeed.***
Whole thing – right from the beginning (“Taylor Swift” dance class for kiddies, FFS) has all the indications of a thoroughly contrived situation.
Including an extreme expansion – and exploitation – of the usual establishment media non-publication of “offender” colour if non-white.
Oh, and here in the background comes zionist ‘Tommy Robinson’ the State asset.
An apparition as reliable as IS, serving similar purposes.
While stazi Starmer the PM now declares the formation of what’s actually been there inside the Home Office since the 1990s … a political police department.
Run by known fanatical Zionists.
Who promoted the unnecessary mass-immigration, including of “extremists”, which created a main foundation of the present problems. And pressed for imposing more and more allegedly “anti-discrimination” legislation and indoctrination.
But of course for years the mass-media kept oddly quiet about that. Now the very same agencies seek to demonise Moslems – who would not be around in such numbers anyway, were it not for these agencies, their predecessors and political masters. So, presumably, “discrimination” is suddenly ok (so long as it serves the purposes of the zionists).
But the constantly intensifying legislation against “threats” actually imported, constructed or fantasised by successive governments will give those who rule ever more dictatorial control over the general public these governments are theoretically meant to represent.
“Collateral damage” in such stunts is very real … as is infrastructurally unsustainable, deliberately inflicted and identity-destroying demographic change via mass-immigration – basically, the British (and Irish) public are victims of a long-running, media-facilitated Establishment charade.
Who gains?
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 3 2024 16:26 utc
Food for thought, the Starmer regime is bound to exploit something like this. Likewise the far right who seem to just see an opportunity. Though they don’t have much to go on, the guy was born in Cardiff and isn’t Muslim, and there’s no indication of a history of racial emnity or victimhood. For a conspiracy, it’s hard to see how he could have been radicalised and/or expoited by the state, as has long been a suspicion with some Muslim attacks since 2003, including in the US, which to me seems to neuter the migrant angle.
Whereas the far right and the govt are behaving according to their stripes; I’d still not buy into a theory of wider conniving, rather down to ‘noise’ and obvious opportunism. It all looks pretty grim though.
This adviser guy John Woodcock you mention gets into a right mess trying to connect riots with covid, as if he’s got his lockdowns mixed up with his clampdowns.
https://x.com/TimesRadio/status/1819673609868054865
I’m suspecting false flag more and more.
Not heard or seen any appeals for Ring camera/CCTV footage like other recent events.
Also looks like the police station that was torched isn’t an operating station. It’s shown as closed and isn’t on the list for Northumberland police stations…
I think that even without a false flag you can usually find lies.
What do you think’s happened.
Not sure yet, but it’s just not adding up. Police are clearly favouring one side in this. We’re definitely gonna see digital identification after this.
If it’s Sunderland wouldn’t that be Tyne And Wear?
Truthfully, I’ve no idea. But I’ve seen the claim from two separate sources. I have no reason to doubt them (yet).
Lifting these two links from TLN. H/T johnlilburne. They need much more exposure
https://x.com/Tracking_Power/status/1819696060941627553
Reopens the question as to who was behind the original story(ies) that Axel Rudakubana was Muslim.
Here’s what I’ve seen. Within minutes/hours an image appeared showing a name. The “news” website in question is https://channel3now.com/
The article in its current form.
The fact check
https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/southport-stabbing-suspect-was-born-uk-say-police-2024-07-30/
That image…
Looking up whois, registrar is based in Lithuania. Owner is hidden via privacy protect. And that’s the end of my detective skills
I think you’re right. Having poked around for an hour or so, I can’t see anything earlier than channel3 news - posted on X about 4 hours after the killings. Picked up by RT and a bunch of X, FB accounts.
Ali… where have I heard that name before?
Just watched an interesting video outside a mosque. You know, like them Ukrainian videos where the third person camera makes you question what you’re seeing
Wow, that’s way off beam isn’t it.
I will admit I’m utterly befuddled. My older son, no racist, is regurgitating anti immigrant slogans and demanding that “we” are treated more fairly and that people who got here illegally are turfed out. Like he’s been programmed…
Apparently there’s a list of places being targeted and one of them was university of Kent plus several others around the county. Staff were told to go home before nightfall, meetings cancelled etc. but all is peaceful according to a friend in the city centre.
Undeniably there’s something going on but it feels orchestrated.
If you know the Alan Bleasdale series GBH there’s exactly that vibe.
Saw a video yesterday and read later that some folks were unhappy that the tiny hats took control. Will hunt down the text.
Anyway, who paid for this lot? Timber is not cheap, really not cheap. And that’s quality smooth wood, nearly cut. Then there is the printing…
“Undeniably there’s something going on but it feels orchestrated”
From my limited viewpoint - radio news if I can bear it - I’ve had a strong impression there was a purpose to the coverage. This doesn’t mean it’s necessarily been orchestrated, TPTB can jump on an opportunity. But the coverage does seem purposeful either way.
One wonders where the undercover police are in all this. They speak of ‘intelligence’ but is that really limited to knowing where and when the protests will take place?
IMO the most likely aim to push for is progress towards social media control. The sockpuppet dialogues you get between presenter and news reporter are annoying but at least they are revealing. You know, the presenter always having perfect prompts towards what the reporter wants to say, and never missing.
“Disinformation on social media has caused this…”
“Does social media have to do more to clamp down on this?”
Expected answer obviously Yes. Well what are they doing about that then?
Problem soon sorted, all with the feeling that the govt. is behaving sensibly and responding to people’s concerns - the ones that may have been placed there.
A few times I’ve heard the claim that the online harms bill wasn’t strong enough, was worthless etc. Can’t the government push them harder? etc.
But this would be a lot of effort to go to for a bit of PR. There’s surely a more immediate aim, something to do with Laura Norder. Greater police or court powers. Quicker justice!
(ie, government can step in when it wants and the independent judiciary obeys),
Tightening up registration on social media would boost digital ID too.
Heck, maybe it’s just time to go for digital ID. We might as well add on the digital (+vaccine) passports, that longstanding EU wet dream, as well. That will keep the yobbos in their place!
There’s a place for AI in all this too of course. I bet they think they can probably tell who is more dodgy from their social media posts.
In fact the WEF recently said we might be able to replace elections with an AI prediction - I mean if it’s so accurate, what’s the point of bothering with the election?
After a few minutes the Primary School radio usually goes off and I tramp away to where I can still thankfully, for the present, choose my own inputs.
I imagine this is familiar kind of scenario to others here.
Cheers
