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Covid in Cuba, Vietnam and China

These are the models that we should be looking to, In my opinion. Not Sweden or other neoliberal, libertarian models.

Seems that Cuba, Vietnam and China had what you’d expect of socialistically-minded states: governments which were well prepared, and took a range of - sometimes - effective actions promptly, with controlling any possible pandemic and getting peoples cooperation both taken as top priorities; unlike the metropolitan state of the Anglozionist empire and its provinces, which have made an utter pig’s breakfast of the whole thing, and still are, the true purposes of the powers-that-shouldn’t-be here being anything but putting public welfare front and centre top priority. Perhaps the one sound conclusion to draw from that is that socialism is an inherently better socio-political system than gangster capitalism. Pretty much of an obvious truism, really, to anyone not drowned in knee-jerk, propaganda-induced dogmatism.

The CPUSA piece, though, seems to be quoting two sets of assumed facts, which should perhaps be taken wih a freight-train of salt: they assume that the official accounts coming out of these socialist countries are completely reliable. Always a bad idea with official state outputs - from anywhere! And they quote a set of exact figures, both for the socialist states and for the empire, which as any AAPA person knows, should be treated as entirely unreliable, knowing as we do the huge global flood of hysteria that has been thrown onto this illness - whatever it really is - which has led to widespread distortions of statistics, to the point where literally no statistical assertion AT ALL can be taken on trust. This the US communists seem to be doing like complete moon-calves; no sign of prudent scepticism about them at all.

All that said, the socialist states do by now appear to have got something right about this illness. What was right, and what was simply unnecessary over-egging, though, are still very much open questions, which only some passage of time is likely to resolve. And even then, I expect, the whole thing will tail off over the next few years, with different bands of people espousing rival hypotheses and still arguing about them long after everyone else has forgotten the subject.

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All good points, RG. I guess really all I’m saying is that when we look for alternative working models out there in the big wide world, certain names tend to dominate the discussion, with Sweden being at the top of the list.

I find that interesting. Why is it so? Somebody must be furthering their interests with that discussion. It seems to me that there is a certain stripe of neoliberal, faux-libertarian philosophy that keeps pushing that narrative.

I don’t buy it.

Why do we not have Thailand, Vietnam, Cuba as our alternative model of what’s successful? Because it doesn’t suit the powers who are trying to frame the narrative to their own ends…

I’ve seen zero stories about those countries in the mainstream. The only alternative to what we are doing which is allowed to be discussed in the mainstream, apparently, is Sweden.

At the end of the day, I strongly agree with you, that the narrative we are being spun about covid is full of mis-information. I think the same is true of the possible alternative narrative too.

Cheers
PP

Yep! Open-minded scepticism about absolutely everything is the eternal rule; as much in the strict scientific method as in daily life.

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