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Covid-19 deaths vs vaccine deaths - a report from on the ground

You know that thing that crops up, where we ask each other how many people we know of that died from/with covid, and how many died having had a Covid jab.
Professor Mark Skidmore has taken this a step further; asking 3000 people in the US the same question.
He wasn’t making a direct comparison between the two categories of fatality, but he produced an estimate of 264,000 fatalities post-vaccine; ie fatalities that were attributed to the vaccine.

How Many People Died from the Covid-19 Inoculations?
An Estimate Based on a Survey of the United States Population*
Working Paper
Mark Skidmore

Abstract
This paper examines the potential fatalities and injuries from the Covid-19 inoculation using an
online “Covid-19 Health Experiences Survey” administered to a representative sample of the
United States (US) population. The sample is composed of 3,000 respondents balanced on age,
gender, and income to the extent possible. The survey was administered in December 2021,
collecting information regarding respondents’ experiences with the Covid-19 illness and the
Covid-19 inoculation as well as Covid-19 health experiences within respondents’ social circles.
The survey also collected respondent socioeconomic information. Assuming all the responses
represent a causal relationship between recorded deaths and the inoculations, I estimate that
about 308,000 people may have died from the Covid-19 inoculation in the US. Removing deaths
that might have happened regardless of the inoculation yields an estimate of 264,000 fatalities. I
also analyze the factors that influence the likelihoods of being inoculated, experiencing an
adverse event, and knowing someone who was injured by the Covid-19 inoculation.

The direct comparison would be fascinating, but the prof. is probably right not to make it (so I’m going to wrongly do it anyway :slightly_smiling_face: ), because you would need to consider how people think about Covid vs how they think about the vaccine. Covid deaths are officially designated, whereas vaccine deaths will probably not be so-labelled in peoples’ minds unless there is perceived reason for suspicion.

At the date of the close of the data collection, the official count for US covid deaths was 832,865 according to Worldometer.

The official count of vaccine deaths is - nine (!), so whatever biases might be present in people’s view of a ‘vaccine death’, a tally in the hundreds of thousands is significant.
At the very least it surely confirms the CDC count is a lie.

What about the comparison. 833,000 ‘covid deaths’ vs 264,000 ‘vaccine deaths’ - what does it mean?

Well the 264,000 will not all be genuine vaccine-induced deaths of course.

But the official ‘Covid deaths’ are subject to significant overcounting due to the widely criticized PCR test using a cycles threshold designed to catch fragments of viral DNA. And how much Covid caused the death isn’t even evaluated. Whereas the vaccine benefits from an embargo on all the avenues that suggest the vaccine causes deaths. If you could adjust for these unquantifiable biases, it’s easy to imagine the two numbers being thrown together, into the same ballpark.

The evidence from studies indicates (suggests/overwhelmingly shows) that early treatment would reduce the covid deaths considerably.

Pinch of salt required rather than a slide rule - but it’s interesting.

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The most plausible of the mass side effects I’ve heard of is that the vaccines are producing AIDS…after all AIDS is not a virus it’s a “syndrome”, it was finding the syndrome that weaponised HIV not the other way around…and the mass contraction of AIDS represents precisely the “karmic rebound” one would expect in this situation…it’s our endocrine systems which are under threat…makes so much sense to me (I first heard about this from this guy: https://twitter.com/OPozzuto/status/1507638677304123393), quote; “According to Cole, human cells have so-called toll-like receptors (TLRs) that classify whether a foreign object in the body is harmful or not. “When the [COVID-19] shots go into the body, they turn some of these [TLRs] off. Normally, they have to be on,” he said.”: https://dreddymd.com/2022/01/31/ryan-cole-covid-vaccines-compromise-immune-system/ Telling huh?

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Sorry to go on (esp. to you Rhis!), but imho the thanatotic urge is ubiquitous, driven by consumerist addiction, made manifest by Frankensteinian physics (incl. particle beam, WiFi, ion-migration, nuclear power et.al), and embodied by its acolytes, and the truth about our dwindling unsustainable resource base, disembodied by crypto-currencies but enabled by the same dewy-eyed neoliberals.

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Further to…that comparison that is always wrong to make…I forgot to factor in the vaccines had only been going a year or so in December, whereas Covid had run for 2 years. The annual toll of the covid deaths would be around half of the 833,000.
So…417,000 ‘covid-19 deaths’ vs 264,000 ‘vaccine deaths’, then all the caveats alluded to above take over.

But Tony Fauci says the count is nine
And Tony is a honourable man good scientist.
And so are they all, the CDC are honourable men good scientists.

Reminds me of that moment in the Iraq occupation - when the Lancet door-door war deaths survey (estimating 500,000 deaths from the war and aftermath conflicts) knocked for six the narrative driven by Iraq Body Count and its ‘media reports’.

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That was certainly concisely clear enough, G, if a bit speculative; speculations with which I’m inclined to agree, btw… :slight_smile:

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Depends on the data base Rhis…I’ve seen and experienced enough evidence…furthermore Muz (a man for whom I have a great deal of respect), has helped me to experience the blocks and barriers inserted into my own system by my child and juvenile vaccinations…this was a real physical experience for me…I’ve done my own research too and discovered the recent findings on the function of the appendix (which I’ve mentioned here more than once), that do indeed suggest that it is certain peoples real interest to create a climate of fear that leads to compliance…basically it’s the same issue as: https://members5.boardhost.com/xxxxx/thread/1648313740.html