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Canada. Euthanasia over healthcare

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I can’t dispute this person’s story But I have personally known someone who chose medical assistance in dying (MAID) and I’ve heard of others from people I know. There was no coercion in any of those cases. The people choosing MAID wanted to end their own suffering on their terms.

Another person close to me who is in a nursing home at age 71 because she can no longer move herself from her wheelchair has looked into MAID and found she does not meet the criteria.

Of course it’s necessary to protect people from others making the decision for them or coercing them into it. But that’s no reason to make it unavailable to the many who want to use it to die with dignity when there’s no hope of recovery, and harsh suffering ahead of them.

As for abortion, those who don’t want it, don’t do it. And hands off those who do want it. It’s their choice.

@JackieL

Is there any financial incentive in Canada for hospitals or others to carry out ā€˜MAID’?

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A good question, @PatB. Goes beyond Canada.

Redefining death…

The Hidden Crisis in Organ Transplantation — Brain Death Diagnosis and Ethical Failures

Though the story appears under the Mercola framework the analysis is by the much respected though anonymous ā€œMidWestern Doctorā€

It’s a difficult one to read. I myself would agree with @JackieL in principle, and believe people should in general have autonomy over their own deaths. Irrespective of anyone else’s religious beliefs.
But what happens when it’s run and even taken over by vested interests? You can probably guess…
As I say it’s a difficult read…

Thanks @LocalYokel for raising the issue.

ED

The Hidden Crisis in Organ Transplantation — Brain Death Diagnosis and Ethical Failures

Analysis by A Midwestern Doctor

Story at-a-glance

The concept of ā€œbrain death,ā€ introduced in 1968 to enable organ harvesting, has never been proven equivalent to actual death — it merely defines an irreversible coma

Documented cases exist of ā€œbrain deadā€ patients who were conscious, including some who mouthed ā€œhelp meā€ as their organs were nearly harvested

Global organ shortages have fueled a black market, with an estimated 5% to 20% of transplants involving illegal procurement and added pressure to lower diagnostic standards for ā€œbrain deathā€

Recent federal investigations found serious failures in the U.S. organ donation system: 29.3% of reviewed cases showed troubling signs, and 20.8% of patients had neurologic activity incompatible with procurement — yet transplant coordinators still pushed to proceed

Safer, ethical alternatives exist — such as natural therapies like DMSO that have revived ā€œbrain deadā€ patients and restored organ function, removing the need for transplant

(Analysis continues…)
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2025/09/12/organ-transplant-brain-death-diagnosis-ethical-failures.aspx

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Since 2016;

Do you know the source of this publication?

I’m not comfortable with this practice of posting untraceable disembodied headlines and snippets of this and that. It’s no way to debate.

I apologize for taking so long to respond to this, PatB. In Canada, MAiD is considered a medical procedure and is covered by the national health care program. There is no more incentive to carry out MAiD than there is to provide dialysis or any other basic health service.

Here’s the gov’t website about it, if anyone is interested in details.

Here’s the website for the Canadian Assoc of MaiD Assessors and Providers.

https://camapcanada.ca/for-the-public/faq/

@LocalYokel 's link is here

Canadian Government Has Now Euthanized 90,000 Citizens with ā€˜Assisted Suicide’ Program

No doubt many or most are legit. There are true stories like this:

Canadian Woman with Cerebral Palsy Bullied by Doctors for Refusing Euthanasia, Called ā€˜Selfish’

"In addition to the alleged 2019 incidents, Hancock says she has been routinely encouraged to end her life via euthanasia.

She revealed that she feels reluctant to seek advice from medical professionals due to the consistent efforts to railroad her into being euthanized.

Hancock says she has been encouraged to take MAiD on three separate occasions since Canada launched its euthanasia program in 2016.

Doctors and nurses have repeatedly suggested that she’s a burden because she has cerebral palsy."

I guess there are people with fascistic views on ā€˜expensive’ patients even in the medical profession. But there is more than a hint that MAID was introduced with more than human dignity in mind. Eg (as shown in the screenshot in Local Yokel’s link), senators pushing MAID for ā€˜Mature minors’ sends shivers down my spine, even though I would support MAID with suitable controls and in the absence of sinister political hijacking.

Well, on that we agree. I’m certainly not in favour of ending the lives of people who want to live (that would be murder). And I do understand that people who rely on others to enable them to live could feel threatened or targetted by the legality of MAiD. That doesn’t prove that they are threatened or targetted, which would be horrible and absolutely wrong.

Thanks for the link. A quick perusal of the SLAY site shows me that it’s not a source I would consider reliable; I think it’s biased in the extreme. (On the other hand, my sister would love it. Different strokes, etc.)

I do wonder why a US publication is so concerned about MAiD in Canada. I doubt it’s because they care about the sanctity of life. I don’t see any opinion pieces there condemning the US for extrajudicial killings in int’l waters or condemning Israel for its treatment of the Palestinian people or condemning the policy of grabbing people off US streets and sending them to countries that they have no connection to, without charge or trial.

If there have been 90,000 deaths under MAiD, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. It indicates that 90,000 people were not forced to suffer needlessly against their wishes. Over 9 years, it’s about 10,000 per year. About 80,000 people died of cancer in Canada in 2023 alone.

This SLAY article suggests that people are being forced or cajoled into MAiD so that their organs can be harvested. It seems to me that many or most of the people who would choose MAiD would also choose to donate their organs if possible because choosing MAiD indicates a certain way of looking at life. That is, being more concerned about quality than length of life.