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Another very useful bean-spill from Dr. dan at the Hulk

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Hi Mary, the family are fine thank you.
We’ve been isolating for most of the term so far. The teacher tested positive and then the usual viral infections kids get have meant repeated trips to poorly run testing facilities in car parks in suburbs of West London. The amount of effort required must mean a fair proportion of people don’t bother when their kids are unwell. Parents are saying…“I didn’t swab xxxxx because it was only one day of fever and a sniffle”. Which is exactly how covid-19 presents in children.

I’m obligated because of the time I spend on oncology wards but given the lack of any tracing it all seems a bit futile. Workforce planning is taking a big hit from staff with school age children being unavailable. Any childhood illness requiring a minimum of 2 days of unplanned leave. A problem which wasn’t there in the spring.

Personally I’m feeling much better, thank you.
I eventually, after 2 months of continuing fever and worsening lethargy until September got scared enough to use my privilege and contacted the medical director who put me in touch with a professor of immunology. The blood test showed an immune reaction to streptococcus - which I guess I had as a secondary infection and a very low level of vitamin B12. Many of the symptoms of long covid overlap with B12. I don’t know if this is a red herring (my grand mother had an autoimmune B12 deficiency), or something that happens in a subset of patients. It’s definitely not a dietary deficiency. Almost miraculously after more than 180 days, within 24 hours of very large doses of B12 and regular doses of other B vitamins the fever stopped - which is reported in deficiency - the lethargy mostly lifted after about 3 days - I would say I’m at about 90% now. Very relieved though won’t be entirely reassured till 100% again. Just have that lingering sensation.

The dynamic of the illness has changed in London.
My colleagues are attributing the change to steroids which I think is very unlikely as they are only given after hospital admission. I the Recovery trial didn’t show a huge benefit.

I think in London it’s probably a combination of population immunity, the previous decimation of the frail elderly, and social distancing and large behavioural change. In March, I was standing face to face in packed tube carriages, which now remain largely empty. The phrase being used is “a slow burn”. There are roughly the same number of ICU patients with covid respiratory failure - unprecedented for the time of year. ICUs are almost full but not spilling over. There are new hospital admissions so it will go up but not a huge wave as before. It’s pretty clear that ICU deaths increase as capacity is reached and breached. At the moment we can manage - things can change - but I am worried for the other cities which don’t have the icu provision. Manchester and birmingham best equipped.

Regarding your confident privileged acquaintances - Surrey will remain less affected - less densely packed, rich white folk who travel by car though I think one of your local ICUs was closed as staff were communicating the virus between patients.

I’d be very surprised if your private hospitals will accept patients for treatment with covid. They are usually set up for profitable day case surgery and not long admissions with oxygen need which will prevent profitable surgery from happening.

Most private insurance doesn’t cover ICU admission and private companies socialise the risk by transferring sick patients and those that have suffered severe complications of surgery back to the NHS. In London, private ICU is a niche with the families of super wealthy individuals, often foreign nationals paying thousands or tens of thousands a day for life sustaining treatment. In many cases for futile care. It’s how ICU works in many parts of the world - if you can pay you can receive care until the money runs out. I’d have to wash myself in carbolic soap every night. I’m just hoping NHS ICU remains a free resource or I’m going to struggle to practice.

I hope you’ve been given a follow up by now. I’m happy to travel to Surrey and kick arse if not.

Best wishes and take care.
dan x

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PS: I have been taking B-complex food-supplement, in the form of Brewer’s Yeast tablets, for years, as part of my standing vitamin/mineral-supplementing regime, to correct the innate lack of adequate levels of all essential factors in the food we have commonly available now. This is so, regrettably, even when including all staples being had from local organic growers. Wild food, as culled fresh that same day by gatherer-hunters working in a large, thriving wilderness, is the ideal for which we’re evolved. But that’s virtually unobtainable for most of us now.

I attribute my complete - 100% - avoidance of any illness from infectious disease over the past quarter century to this constant topping up of dietary requirements for reliable good health, by supplementation. That, plus one or two other vital and potent medicinal herbs, plus the daily making of shamanic white magic, of course… :slight_smile:

My brush with covid - if that’s what it was; certainly seemed to pass the symptoms test - was mild and very brief, compared to the atrocious, horribly-extended beating that dan’s had to endure. But then, my retired life is infinitely more tranquil than his, with relative stress levels simply not comparable. Wish him well, and continue to include him in your psychic-healing practice, if you’re well-informed enough to know just how effective that can be… :slight_smile:

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Excellent intel RG. Preparing the terrain, as Chris Martensen always called it, is probably the most important thing we can do. I’ll def pay some extra attention to B (alongside the D I already take).

Cheers
PP

My belt-and-braces, cover-all-items regimen now is: A gram of slow-release C on rising, and another on retiring to sleep, plus an order of magnitude more of quick-release C powder in water, sipped constantly through the day when under attack from a pathogen; plus a one-a-day multivit in the morning and another (sic, one-a-day!) before bed (with food for best effect); plus the extra B-complex supplementation as sketched above. Plus - of course - twice-daily doses of cannabis oil, as a cardio-vascular supporter. Good for fending off strokes, heart-attacks, high blood pressure, etc. Plus daily physical activity, prudent diet, and daily shamanic/spiritual work. The full monty! :slight_smile:

Seems to work well for me, being ancient, and with the decrepitude of many years sure, but no sickness, no pain, no serious disability, all serene. I think everyone has to grope their way towards some such dispensation, whatever they find works for them. Takes a while, and in the process of digging out what will suit you, you listen to ‘experts’ but don’t necessarily obey them every time. Personal sovereignty, heavily cut with common sense, remains crucial.

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All credit to vit sups and other healthy living for keeping you that way Rhis, but what strikes me about Dan’s post is that it appears that he may not have had “long covid” at all, if indeed it even exists, other than as the long known “post viral syndrome” - ME or 'glandular fever". The Strep infection could be par for the course with so much sanitising going on, removing natural defences, while the B12 deficiency is specially interesting because its symptoms are both physical tiredness and psychological, including supposedly tending to dementia.
I had a significant B12 deficiency a couple of years back - or so I was told - and had a course of 12 injections that restored it to normal. Since then it has been OK, for reasons I don’t understand, either having it or not having it!
The other observations Dan makes, about the level of immunity in London for instance, are MOST interesting.

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From a laymans perspective, my sentiments exactly. Dan has been used as an example of how dangerous and long lived Coroni is. And actually the Strep infection, although referred to by Dan himself as “secondary” may actually have been the problem all along!

This just highlights the danger of the “I know someone who’s got it!” syndrome. One swallow doth not a summer make.

Painful though it is, the essential watching brief seems to be the only intellectually-meticulous way to deal with this illness. We just don’t know enough about it for sure, yet, to make any - genuinely - authoritative pronouncements. W&S remains the only honest stance - highly unsatisfying though it is, emotionally. :innocent:

That’s reassuring Pat - because I can’t find anyone who doesn’t bring up the problem of “long-haulers” and cite examples, or question its reality. This includes my own brother whose psychiatric qualification makes him quite familiar with the psychological aspects of illness but unable to apply them to himself or those suffering psychosomatic conditions and the like. As someone who has long struggled with such “hypochondria”, I know just how convincing such symptoms can be, and their ability to generate and magnify minor health aberrations - which we all seem to have.
What annoys me is the way that our media obsessively focusses on these things that are relatively uncommon - with the extremes being “Kawasaki” disease, or the people who have caught COVID twice. Believe it or not, today it was declared that “despite there only being a handful of such cases in the world” Victoria appears to have someone who was “reinfected” with CV19, having tested positive twice three months apart. I believe that either the first or the second test was asymptomatic, which means it was probably a false positive, or a very mild infection which didn’t produce immunity. Putting the likelihood of this in perspective, the TOTAL number of positive CV cases in Australia is now about the same as the UK’s DAILY positive case numbers! We are still pondering on whether to bring Melbourne out of its extreme lock down of over 3 months, when the daily new cases are just one or two, and sometimes five. We count things in the number of “active cases” which mean those who tested positive and are still in quarantine. Now around 190 of them. It’s farcical.