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A fairy tale of a psy op

Disclaimer. This is a fairy tale and any likeness to an event, entity, or to any person alive or dead is purely coincidental.

Imagine a time in the future where huge complex psy ops have been replaced by smaller, focused, but much more targetted psy ops. One such psy op might be targetted against a message board, focused on calling out the mainstream media on pro-establishment distortion of the facts.

Imagine that this message board has three types of visitors. Regular commentators, occasional commentators and many more who read the discussion, debates, and even disagreement, however, they never comment. Almost without exception, the regular and occasional commentators are articulate, well informed, and while not necessarily anti-establishment, they are always politically to the “left” of establishment policy. They are not afraid of critiquing the establishment and mainstream media.

Imagine, that it would not be long before the message board became of interest to the security services. GCHQ places the message board on their Watch List. Monitor, but take no action except for a detailed identification of every user of the board and tracking of all their other activities. Let’s assume this situation continues for a number of years, while the entire deep state including the security services are working on a major new psy op. One that will change the lives of everyone forever.

Imagine that in preparation for this major psy op, some shills are introduced to this message board. The funder of the message board uses his liberal credentials, with occasional postings, to establish his credentials as someone to be believed and trusted. The shills meanwhile, become regular and hence trusted commentators. Their time will come!

Imagine a time comes when a psy op takes place on a global scale. A pandemic that traverses the globe, sparing no one, rich, poor, black, white, north and south of the equator. The security services in close co-operation with the deep state, and compliant “experts” create an environment of fear, and martial law creeps in almost unnoticed, to help control the pandemic.

In the early days of the pandemic, a few contributors to the message board, start to question the “experts” evidence. They question the way statistics are presented (we all know about statistics, dammed statistics, and lies). The debate on the message board quickly becomes almost the sole topic. Rapidly two groups emerge. Those that believe the official narrative, and those that don’t or at the very least question it. Now is the time for the shills to do their best work. They rapidly ensure the debate goes from reasoned, logical, evidence based, or occassionly just opinions, to force a complete divergence of views. There become the supporters of the official narrative and the disbelievers. The shills ensure there is no room for middle ground.

Imagine, once the groups are polarised, the shills no longer use argument, logic, or evidence to support their position. They follow the mainstream narrative to the letter, and use every opportunity to devalue, and mock the sceptics. Real debate ra[idly degenerates into personal attacks. A few or the more resilient sceptics continue with polite and respectful debate. The majority gradually lose interest and the regular contributors with the best analysis and the most expertise to offer, become the occassional,while the occasional contributors dissapear completely.

But this small psy op within the major psy op is not yet over.

Imagine that the puppet masters in the security services, set up a new, more modern looking message board, and like flies to carrion, the sceptics quickly depart to newer climes. Here, the debate will be civil, the disagreements may be real, but evidence and logic rule the day, and agree or not, there will be no personal attacks.

Imagine, now the security services have all the “dissenters”, that dangerous band of people who are able to think for themselves, analyse, and even question, all in one place. The believers in the pandemic narrative and its consequences, can continue in their day to day debates without any threat to the major psy op. Still quietly monitored, but ineffective as opposition to the deep state.

Imagine that the puppet masters have learnt their lessons well over many years. There are lots of ways to quiet dissent. The new message board quickly generates reasoned, well informed and often expert opinion and debate. Polite in the extreme, yet still questioning or disbelieving the official narrative about the pandemic. Yet the security services have developed their craft over many years. Now is the time to use it.

Imagine that on the new message board, several shills are part of the early band. They are not there to abuse, or debase any arguments, They are there to dilute them with stealth. They treat every argument as if the muntiae are important. Detail their arguments as if experts in statistics, science, and disease. They post so many times on the new board, that the majority of dissenters gradually give up, reduce their debating, and almost stop their regular reading of other posts.

Meanwhile, the shills on the old board, are now unknowingly in two groups. The first group are those with TDS (h/t @RhisiartGwilym), terror derangement syndrome. They watch the roll out of martial law, the complete dissolution of the rule of law and they are happy the dissenters have gone. The second group of shills are also happy, but for a different reason. They are on the payroll of the deep state. Their foreign bank accounts suitably topped up or their crypto-currency wallets fattened.

Imagine, that now cabinet ministers lie to parliament with impunity, government departments give out multi-million pound contracts with no oversight, for products either not yet developed or never to be used. Martial law rolls in quietly with no one noticing.

To be continued …

Droll - and thought-provoking - stuff, Pat!

Entertaining though it is, here’s an alternative hypothesis, which satisfies Occam’s Razor by being simpler:

Under the impetus of a deliberate terror-porn campaign pushed by the wholly-owned pocket-pols and mediawhores run by the real, deep-state oligarchic power-wielders (for reasons why that, see link below), people divide naturally, because of their innate personality profiles, into Terror-Deranged sheep, and calm, sceptical, refusing-to-stampede goats. This happens spontaneously, because of their natural personality differences. Which side of the divide some individuals fall is often highly surprising, considering their previous records, but fear of death is what it is in each of us. Presumably it cancels all calm reasoning facility amongst the fatally-susceptible.

The argumentative keyboard-jockies then divide themselves spontaneously into sheep-communities, and goat-communities, using separated messaging hubs, operating in a state of mutual contempt and distaste, and not communicating much at all (though with a few straddlers continuing to read at both hubs, and an even fewer who continue to try to post constructively within both tribes).

The deep-staters’ state Secret Police continue to monitor any groups which happen to offend the generally rather conservative-minded (not to say crypto-fascist) prejudices of the Secret Police personnel - especially their English-raj-class chieftains - sure. But the snoopers manifest an increasing ineptitude, and one has to presume a decreasing funding budget, as everything economic goes to hell in a hand-cart inexorably, irreversibly, because of the steadily-accelerating Long Descent away from hitech industrial ‘civilisation’. Thinking of assorted recent Anglozionist-empire psyops attempts, the words ‘piss-up’ and ‘brewery’ spring to mind. Baffled, clueless mediocrity becomes the governing characteristic of these dorks.

With this scene-setting sketch as background, I tend to doubt the actual capability, funding, or even the simple brute supply of sufficient operatives, to run the sort of snooping and manipulation that your hypothesis suggests, Pat. Sure, they’d like to do it. But are they up to the job? A steady trickle of what look suggestively like ham-fisted attempts to troll and shill the dissident groups can be discerned. They’re probably real efforts by the ham-fists. But colossal, super-humanly clever, masterly, Illuminati-like evil geniuses? Amongst we silly little human farties (h/t Ben Elton for that eternally-apt descriptive! :slight_smile: )? Have to doubt that, Pat. The occasional self-motivating amateur, free-lance, ill-willed troll sure. Happens regularly, till they’re told to piss off. But vast plots…?

The nearest we come to that, I think, (and even then not Illuminati evil super-minds-style, just little psychopathic farties at play as usual) is the kind of scenario which Dmitry Orlov outlines in his latest - paywalled - essay. Can’t give you a link; you have to subscribe to his SubscribeStar account. But I did offer a review/precis of it here at 5F, headlined:

‘Dmitry Orlov on the covid hysteria, and why’

As a realistic response to the looming, apocalyptic energy problems of the world, and the obviously-moribund state of the Anglozionist empire and its camp-followers, with their huge mountain of delusional money-scams and never-to-be-repaid debt about to slide into the sea and make a global tsunami, I think that Dmitry’s sketch of probable deep-state scamming might be more likely.

Why would any serious, premier-league bunch of chancers-on-the-make take any particular notice of little, pretty ineffectual bands of human farties blethering in places like 5F or the Hulk? They can just leave us safely to our no-count chatter-fests… :laughing:

Hmmm… I wonder who that might be a reference to?

:thinking:

Perhaps I should get involved in the discussions less… A little self censorship. But then I might not get the full paycheck from MI5…

A conundrum.

PP

Yeah - ‘Don’t shoot the Pontius. He’s doing his best’. [This weak little effort at a jest will be familiar to people of a certain age who remember the endless Hollyshite Westerns of our 50s/60s youth…]

In self defence PP, I did say it was a fairy tale and no relation to …

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I hope your hypothesis is right, for all our sakes!

Well, one thing I never credit is the idea of super-villains, so amazingly gifted at their evil craft that they just sweep away any chance of democratic agency amongst the plebs: Bond-cuckoo-land. Not a chance! Fallible, silly little human farties all of 'em, just like we plebs whom they despise so delusionally. Naturally, that description includes the Secret Police - especially their English-raj-class ‘leaders’. Silly little farties every man-jack/woman-jill of 'em. (Is there really any other kind of human…?) :grin:

Well, I’m certainly not interested in trolling or putting people off from expressing themselves. Think I might take a step back from the covid threads.

One way or another the reality of our situation will crack us all over the head soon enough.

Cheers
PP

PP: “Think I might take a step back from the covid threads.”

I for one would miss your detailed focus PP - especially if that’s a result of being asked to imagine a pattern that we can’t even see in the tea leaves.

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@PontiusPrimate No offence intended (although I would understand if any was taken) :innocent:

No, keep on with the broad survey and analysis, P. It has its uses. You - er - you might like to continue with this bit of Ivor Cummins :slight_smile: :

Cheers

I’ll take a look. I think I’ll listen more than talk about covid for a while. As someone round here keeps saying it’s a matter of waiting and seeing anyway

:wink:

Wait and see on the issue of herd immunity, severity of Coroni, HCQ, mask wearing, and vitamins by all means.

However, in my opinion, the political agendas being rolled out on the basis of Coroni, are far too dangerous to be allowed. The track and trace, lockdowns by decree, forced house arrest and all the rolling of government institutions and “defence forces” into one consolidated entity, the virtual shutdown of parliment (notional as democracy might be) is dangerous. We must not wait and see on these issues.

Quite agree! No need to have a true perspective of covid, before we oppose vigorously all the one-percenters’, democracy-abolishing scams that are being perpetrated on its back. Those are obvious already-clear rackets, no further confirmation required, and they need a large uprising of pissed-off plebs to flush them away; pronto!

This is probably going to be an inflection point in current history, when it gets decided which path we follow from here: vicious, destructive neo-feudalism, or just and democratic scarcity-socialism.

I’d go for a bit of both, as the role of the gate keepers - as in the old Eds - is fundamental in preventing any leakage of credible opposition into the minds of those prepared to consider it. If you look at OffGuardian lately, I’m struck by what appears to be happening to its all important comment section, at least in some areas. It is overtaken my multiple posts and conversations between typical social media types vying to impress each other and vying for the most extreme versions of OFFG alternative thinking, such as that “there is no such thing as a virus”. OfFGuardian can then be safely classed as a conspiracy site and ignored. I’d like to think we were that important…!
But look at what happened to people who tried to discuss anti-lockdown on social media in Melbourne - the police came and smashed down their doors and took them away! And now if you want to have a coffee, you just point your phone at the QR code and it takes your details, and number and location…

@RhisiartGwilym Another great vid from Ivor Cummings. Sadly, those suffering from TDS (my own friends and family included) will either not watch, not understand, or cognitive dissonance sets in and it gets ignored. Thanks for posting.