In the Mattias Desmet interview (posted in another thread by @RhisiartGwilym ), Desmet says that someone under the spell (my paraphrase) of a mass formation, can have everything taken away from them and even inflict physical injury and it will not shake their belief.
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"I wish you all well in your occasional baths in the Hulk’s bilges. Personally, I feel well out of it… "
Only for research purposes
Might I be able to claim my £5 for thinking that ‘Jim Carlucci’ is …Zev? The real burning issue
Acid-bath-the-world Zev has reappeared? Shit! Let him stay on the Hulk!
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