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Claims: The vaccine is saving us! Glory be to Vaccines

There is going to be a lot of this:
Covid vaccine is already reducing hospital admissions and deaths
Link: Covid vaccine is already reducing hospital admissions and deaths | Metro News

I thought that was the lockdown? Oh wait.

Here’s some data on countries’ vaccination programmes
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All countries save UK and Israel have relatively low vaccination rates.

Taking it from 12 Jan, a 5 week period:
Cases in the UK have indeed dropped roughly 75%, Israel 50% in this period.

Chechnia (World highest for cases at 12 Jan) reduced cases per million/day by about 35%.
US reduced by 2/3, Columbia by 2/3, S Africa by 90% despite sending AZ vaccine back.
Easy to spot others with reductions of half. Spain 40%. Netherlands 50%. All with nothing like UK and Israel’s vaccination rollouts.

In addition there seemed to be initial increases in the UK following the vaccine rollout, at least in the care homes, so it could be what went up coming down.

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See my post here The Web of Players Trying to Silence Truth - #4 by PatB

No need for the 2nd vax in care homes. With an 81% increase in death rates (since the start of the vax roll out), there won’t be any old “useless eaters” to occupy beds and take vaccines from the rest of us who really, (really? in case anyone misses the sarcasm) need it.

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So - there’s been the usual surge of illness during the Winter flu season, and - as usual - it’s now subsiding spontaneously as the Winter subsides; clearly not because of the alleged ‘healing’ effects of the fake-vaccine poisons and the completely non-effective house-arrests, masks and mutual avoidance.

HAS there even been a pandemic? If, that is, you use the usual dictionary definition of the word, in which the perennial background death rate upticks noticeably for a while?

I wonder whether hindsight will underline the - obviously taboo - idea that there never was one, at least not something that featured some new, fearsome pathogenic micro-organism, caught from bats in some disgusting Chinky food market in Wuhan. (sark alert!)

Try an alternative view: In the over-rich countries in particular, our crashing about with loony techno-fetishism, together with our - still increasing for the moment - population overshoot, has produced such a toxic environment that millions of us are in a state of precarious health as a chronic problem. (Not much doubt about that, actually. Someone I was reading recently proposed a though-experiment: suppose TSHTF very suddenly and big-time; a sudden big comet-fragment strike on the Earth, for example. How many of the Matrix-dwellers - people like we keyboard jockeys of the Pampered Twenty Percent - would be able to survive in the chaos? Or would the survivors be confined to that small segment of the human population who still live the subsistence-farmer/gatherer-hunter lifestyles; able-generalist humans who are still up to that kind of tough, demanding life? The still-traditionally-living Nenet reindeer-herders of North Siberia, for example…?)

So, along comes a novel micro-organism… or possibly… a novel exosome caused by bodies trying to rid themselves of accumulated toxin loads; an exosome which gets mistakenly identified as an exterior micro-organismic pathogen; an invading foreign bug to blame! Shockhorrorstormpanic!!! Quick! Get the wholly-owned shysters in the WHO to declare a global emergency! Fill people with even more gratuitous toxins, to ‘kill’ the bug (and the hyper-vulnerable oldies lingering in the ‘care’ warehouses too: the final coup-de-grace for those poor buggers; as we’re now seeing.)

And, whilst you’re at it, explore in the various planning conclaves of the parasite-class ways to use these serial public panics to - you know - enable the gics to increase their WealthPowerStatus opportunistically even more, in the pandemonium: Double-yer-billions gic-games…

Well, doesn’t that description fit the observed events as accurately, or even more so, than the (possibly-phlogistonesque) ‘germ’ theory of sickness…?

That seems to be the alternative hypothesis that’s emerging, particularly amongst the independent-minded thinkers featured in the ‘Vaccines Revealed: Covid’ interview sequences. The rapidly-growing new discipline of genomics seems to lend credence to this new way of seeing the matter, as doctors Tom Cowan and Zack Bush outline.

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Wait… I’m a bit slow. Are you an actual phlogiston denier? I’m sure I saw a thoroughly researched and wholly objective Full Fact report about the likes of you :thinking:

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Here it comes - the TALK of ‘evidence’…

Cases are falling worldwide. The next thing to observe is for politics to transform falls in cases into the perception that vaccines are the reason for this. The promotion of vaccine passports doesn’t find it necessary to wait for proof that vaccines do stop or reduce transmission - a claim that at the point of announcement, should it be accompanied by ‘evidence’, can be challenged by the awkward squad. In old style politics, such views of clear announcements would at least surface underneath the mainstream.

Far better tactics for the announcement to be staged. We have seen the first stage already - where those in power and their faithful servants to act as though it was a given, but their trust-inspiring caution forbids them from taking precipitate decisions before the evidence is present. This aids the perception that when evidence does appear, it will be viewed with an open mind. At this stage plans can proceed supposedly conditionally on the evidence. The nature of the evidence need not be dwelt upon. In fact there is additional benefit in disembodying the evidence from the claims in what will be ‘earlier in the month’ and the actions they sparked.

The talk of the evidence (and the passports) has started to appear.

First real-world data shows Oxford and Pfizer vaccines cut TWO THIRDS of Covid-19 infections AND transmissions - as PM gets early findings ahead of roadmap out of lockdown

" The first ‘real-world’ data examining the impact of vaccines suggests the Oxford and Pfizer jabs cut two thirds of infections and transmissions."

Despite the ‘assertion’ of a suggestion, the Heil knows nothing of the kind.

“Boris Johnson is expected to hear evidence on the impact of jabs on transmission, infection, hospital admissions and deaths by the end of Friday.”

Clearly (well we are talking about vaccine announcements) getting out the claim is more important than even informing the PM - raising expectations and thereby incurring some political cost should he do the unexpected and say that’s not good enough, or that’s a load of bollox. (Of course he’s much more likely to say “Brilliant, my wife deals with these details”, or “Can it be blue?” and sing Rule Britannia).

And where is the data?

"The ‘real world’ data, from Public Health England studies with 40,000 healthcare workers and 9,000 care homes, are to be released later this month.

But Mr Johnson is reportedly going to get preliminary results - showing the positive impact of the Oxford and Pfizer jabs in cutting infections - early."

World figures show a drop of about 50% in cases since 12 Jan. But deaths have only fallen maybe 15% in this time.

Given falls are to be seen in other countries with way fewer vaccinations (as noted in the opening post above), outside of a randomized trial it’s not easy to see how data showing reduction in transmission is due to vaccines can be robust. Of course by the time the cracks in the argument become apparent, people will be planning their holidays, making the runaway train of expectations difficult to hold back.

In Scotland the ratio of weekly deaths to the previous week has been below 1 for a month, averaging 0.83 but actually rising in the past week. Throughout this period the First Minister has been claiming the cases ‘R number’ was higher than 1, without explaining how cases could then be falling.

Paradoxically, yesterday the number was claimed to be below 1 for the first time since December - on the same day this weekly ratio described actually crept back up past 1.

Maybe FM stands for Frank Morgan…“Pay no attention to the data - just watch the man behind the curtain”

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